by Whabby
Welcome to the second installment of "Whabby Wednesday" This week I’m going to start us out with a very simple “thought experiment”, which is quite apropos, since thought experiments were one of Einstein’s favorite investigative tools. Suppose you suddenly became obsessed (I mean seriously obsessed) with measuring how long it takes events to occur (in other words, you got seriously into measuring time). To satisfy your new obsession, you construct a rather special spaceship, shaped like an enormously long, thin cylinder. For reasons that will become clear shortly, you specify that the cylinder must be precisely 300,000 kilometers (186,000 miles) long, not a foot more or less! The floor of your ridiculously elongated spacecraft is quite snug, just large enough to hold one passenger and a strong directional searchlight, just like the ones they use to aim beams of light into the sky at gala movie premieres and the like. This searchlight, though, is a customized beast in the sense that it is bidirectional: it sends a light beam both straight up and straight down through the spacecraft’s floor. That’s possible because the floor of your spacecraft is made of a layer of glass, strong enough to support a human passenger and the searchlight, but completely transparent, so that somebody directly beneath the spacecraft can easily see the light coming from the searchlight.
The roof of your spacecraft, 300,000 kilometers above the floor, is a carefully polished, perfectly reflective, mirror. That mirror is there for one purpose: to assist you to make very precise measurements of the time it takes for a brief flash of light to travel from the floor of the spacecraft to the top, reflect off the mirror, and travel back down the length of the cylinder to the floor. With that goal in mind, you enter the spaceship and lie down on the glass floor, facing straight up. Right beside you is the bi-directional searchlight. When it is powered on, the light it produces goes straight up the shaft, toward the ceiling of the spacecraft, and gets reflected straight back down. When the light pulse reaches the floor, it is still plenty strong enough for you to see as an unmistakable flash, like a lightning bolt.
Now, how do you set about making measurements of how long it takes the flash to travel to the roof and back? Still lying flat on the floor, you carry out two tasks in quick succession. The first task is to toggle the searchlight on and off as quickly as you can, creating the light flash. In your other hand, you hold a standard stopwatch used to time foot races and the like; you know, the kind you both start and stop by pushing the same button on the top of the watch. At exactly the same time as you flick the switch, releasing the pulse of light from the searchlight, you press that button to start the stopwatch. Then, when you see the light flash on its return journey from the ceiling, you press the button on the stopwatch again. Finally, you look at the amount of time showing on your stopwatch, and record that value in a log or a spreadsheet. Voila: You’re measured the duration of our event of interest.
So, how long WOULD it take to see the flash of light? The figure below illustrates the situation and provides the straightforward answer. Since the cylinder is exactly 300,000 kilometers long, the mirror in the ceiling is 300,000 kilometers away. By astonishing coincidence, light happens to travel at a speed of almost exactly 300,000 kilometers per second; rather fast, in other words. The flash of light takes precisely one second to travel up to the mirror, and another second to make the return journey, for a total round-trip time of two seconds. Two seconds is the value you’d expect to see on your stopwatch.
So far, there’s nothing very complicated about this thought experiment, is there? As we all know, the time to complete a journey is simply the distance traveled divided by speed. The total distance up and down the cylinder is 600,000 kilometers; light travels at 300,000 kilometers a second, so the total travel time is two seconds.
Of course, human physiology does enter the picture, and complicates the interpretation of the value that shows up on your stopwatch. As you do the measurement over and over and write down the result in your logbook, you quickly come to see that the average of all those times is a little more than two seconds. This is because, before you can press the button to stop the stopwatch, your eye has to be stimulated by the light flash, and your brain has to respond to that stimulation by issuing a command to your finger to press the button. These brain activities would delay your button presses by a slightly different amount each time you repeat the measurement. On average, though, the delay would be about two-tenths of a second (trust me on this… remember, I’m a psychologist)! If, every time, you subtracted that 0.2 seconds from the value showing on the stopwatch, you would be left with the real two seconds of time it took for the flash to complete its journey and reach your eyes.
From now on, let’s imagine that the stopwatch is a smart device, smart enough to automatically subtract this “brain processing” time from the value that shows when you hit the “stop” button. That way, you get a really pure measure of the time it takes the light pulse to travel.
Next week we’ll extend the thought experiment in a way that I hope will pique your interest. Until then, Owls, in the words of Star Hustler Jack Horkheimer: Keep…. Looking….. Up……. (to the roof of your spacecraft… LOL)! And feel free to speculate, if you like, on where this thought experiment is going. Hint: You’ve deliberately put your measurement apparatus in a spaceship!
Good Morning!
ReplyDeleteBEAR..I'm gonna give this a go.. :)
BEAR: That was explained beautifully..and I'm not one that understands Science that well. I really did get it..and at 6am no less!
ReplyDeleteAs for guessing where this thought experiment is going..well..I don't want to push my luck..lol..
Thanks for the mind stretching blog this morning BEAR! :)
that looks scary whabby~
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ReplyDeleteBy the way BEAR.."ridiculously elongated spacecraft" and a "mirror on the ceiling"...it's no wonder I could follow this so well.. ;)
ReplyDeleteG'morning TINA!
I'm off to sleep..Have a great day everyone!
(delete was mine..I can read at 6am..but can't seem to form sentences) ;)
Nice, Whab! An introduction to C?
ReplyDeleteHi Zona!
Happy Whabby Wednesday, Hooters!
Sorry, Tina! Didn't see you come in. Morning!
ReplyDeleteHello my Owl friends...
ReplyDeleteI haven't been here very much of late. Life has been crazy busy getting ready for an adventure that is coming very soon! And I am not certain I will be able to access Blogger from Kuwait so I started my move away from the nest early, so it would be easier then when I get there and am missing you all and can't get on to the site!
I am so appreciative of the support from you all whether I have been here or not! This is a scary but exciting adventure and I am so thankful for your words of encouragement! Thank you Carol for what you wrote on the homepage....touched my heart! And thank you to you all!
I am off to Kuwait in about 24 hours. I am nervous but even more excited and greatly looking forward to teaching and travelling and moving out of my comfort zone, which is why I am doing this. I will be staying connected on Facebook and such and here if I can and I take you amazing people with me!
From the bottom, top and sides of my heart - thank you so much for your support and encouragement! I will miss you all!
Best of luck to you, Vig!
ReplyDeleteVig I wish you a safe, fun and exciting adventure! (((HUGS))) I look forward to hearing all about it.
ReplyDeleteHi,congrats on first Zona.
ReplyDeleteI will read the blog tonight. I am at work but wanted to post the link for my daughter's contest.
Please vote for her.
Sorry this link is like this. I will post again tonight...just don't remember how to do the little blue link and have the instructions at home.
http://www.bodybyvictoria.com/#/Gallery/2022
Have a great day everybunny! Thanks and love you guys for doing this. There were supposed to be 3 pictures and they messed up her little blurb too. But it would be a dream come true if she won. Thanks so much and pass it on, if you want. HUGS! You guys are the BEST!
Good morning (or night...I'm never really sure with you. LOL!) and congrats on 1st!
ReplyDeleteTina don't be scared, we'll hold you hand.
Bonachichi good morning to you as well.
Whabbear I totally followed everything you have said so far. I hope I will be able to say that in the coming weeks.
I'm taking my laundry to mum's to do so I need to get ready. We have been having some real humid days and yesterday it was really bothering mum. I hope it is a little cooler today. The first of next week we may have a visit from hurricane Bill who is getting stronger in the Atlantic Ocean. Catagory 4 right now.
Have a good day Owls. BBL.
Hi Bebbi! I will vote if you will send me the instructions on how to post links.
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ReplyDeleteVig: I did notice your comment..and had to say..Godspeed and God Bless. Be careful and you know we are all there with you. Can't wait to see pics and hear about your experiences!!! You rock!
ReplyDeleteShirley, Thanks so much. I will send it tonight. You guys are so awesome. Okay, I am at work..got to go. Hugs to all.
ReplyDeleteGood Morning All.
ReplyDeleteZona-My-Baby - Congrats at being first. I am rushing to an early morning doctor's appointment.
ReplyDeleteI will read comments and Bear's great blog when I get home.
ReplyDeleteGood morning!
ReplyDeleteCongrats Zona! Have a good sleep!
Bear I was able to follow your blog today! You made it easier to understand, thanx for that!
VIG, for some reason I feel sad when reading your post. I guess it's that you are moving so far away. I am happy for you! I admire you for what you're doing, I know I myself would never be able to up and move to another country.
I will look forward to hearing how you are, and about life in the middle east.
Safe travels to you!
I am going to pick up Nancy at 10:00. We missed that little girl last night!
Shout out to Tina, Bonerchichi, Shirley, MEK, Bebbi and Tinka!
Hope everyone has a nice day today!
Thanks, Zona and EBJ! If you are still saying that a few blogs from now, I'll dance a jig!
ReplyDeleteBon: Indeed! Would you care to explain to the owls what "C" stands for? That would make a great connection to an upcoming blog, where I actually mention "C" and you in the same sentence!
Sheila: Please write some blogs from Kuwait! I know we're all going to be interested in your adventures...
Shirley: I hope so, too! These early blogs are setting the stage for the meatier ones later on.
ReplyDeleteWell, Whab. I didn't know whether you really wanted us shouting things out...
ReplyDeleteC is what we call the speed of light. How fast light travels. C=186,000 miles per second. The moon is about 400,000 miles away, so it takes 2.2 seconds for light to travel from the moon to YOUR eyes. That means we all see the moon in the past. 2.2 seconds in the past.
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ReplyDeleteBear - Your blog is absolutely fascinating. I have nothing to add but am very much looking forward to the next installment.
ReplyDeleteWhabby Wednesday will be something to look forward to.
Oh. And light travels in a straight line. Unless, I believe, you're Albert Einstein and Whabby Bear.
ReplyDeleteI think that's the gateway you're looking for Whab, yes?
I am home and just got a call from VIG. She leaves tomorrow morning and I am feeling sad. Between that and my x-ray results which show markedly degenerative arthritis in my hands, feet, knees and back I am going to bed to pull the covers over my head for a few hours. After a good cry and a good nap I know I will be better. See you later. Love, Tinka
ReplyDeleteI would pay an electrician to wire the stopwatch device into the light switch so that it goes off simultaneously, then hire a mathamatician to do the equations.
ReplyDeleteThen I would put Bear and T-Bon on an all expenses paid vacation/business trip to Oahu to explain it all to me over Mai Tai's. Of course I would hire the cutest of cabana boys to serve both equally~
Morning Hooters.
Vig: Safe travels. Let me know when you are up and running over there via Skype k?
Zona Good morning! Congrats on being first today.
ReplyDeleteBear Great blog! You explain things so well. I'm really looking forward to reading the rest of the installments.
VIG I'm not on FB so I hope you will be able to keep in touch here. I, too, greatly admire this courageous move of yours to go out of your comfort zone.....way out! I wish you the best of luck in this great adventure. I hope you still have my email addy and that I will hear from you from time to time. We will all be thinking of you and sending you smiles and hugs.
Kgrl Exactly what kind of service is that cabana boy providing? LOL
ReplyDeleteBringin you drinks...lol
ReplyDeleteIf you want more then you need to negotiate privately.
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ReplyDeleteWhere is everybody? Having drinks with Kgrl and the cabana boy?
ReplyDeleteMaybe everybody is recovering from the shock of actually understanding today's blog without too much mental strain. LOL
Tinka I'm sorry about your x-ray results. I hope there is medication to help you with the inflammation and pain. Sending the gentlest of (((HUGS))) to you.
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ReplyDeleteBear - The blog is quiet. Everyone must be thinking of something intelligent to add to your great blog. I am still thinking hard. You are so knowledgeable it blows me away. How did you do in Science at school? I bet you taught the teachers a lot.
ReplyDeleteShirley Please write that down. I hope your mum is having a better day today.
ReplyDeleteTinka I was talking to you at 6:19. Are you feeling better?
ReplyDeleteI just made an apple pie trying to ignore the pain in the hands. I just didn't like the words "extensive" and "degenerative" in my results. I guess this is as good as it gets so I had better make pies while I can. Sorry for the self pity posts today. I know there are many going through much worse things than this. I am sending ((((Hugs)))) to them today.
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ReplyDeleteSending (((HUGS))) to you, Tinka.
ReplyDeleteJust_Lin - I deleted my last post because I said I couldn't take any medicine with aspirin in it because I was on "pain killers" instead of saying "blood thinners". I just re-read my commented and quickly deleted it for fear of owls thinking I was drinking (and I don't mean pop). Thanks for your concern.
ReplyDeleteJust_Lin - I got the hug thank you.
ReplyDeleteI had a lovely long phone conversation with your friend Lani today. What a lovely lady. She perked me up just when I was at my lowest. I call that a guardian angel.
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ReplyDeleteTinka I'm glad you and Lani had a nice talk and that it perked you up.
ReplyDeleteTina Hmmmm... looks like you had a little "pick me up", also. Congrats.
WHABBY...I love ya, dude...but all I can say is "huh?"!! I was lost from the 2nd sentence!Although I did imagine the spacecraft to be a phallic symbol!
ReplyDeleteVIG...Safe travels. Miss you already!
TINKA...I'm sorry you are having such pain. It's ok to come here and ask your friends for comfort. And a good cry usually works wonders!
KGIRL...since you are offering, I could use some explaining and educating, too! Maybe I could understand it better with a Mai Tai and in Hawaii!!! That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
BEBBI...I hope your daughter wins. You will LOVE NYC!!
JUST LIN...cabana boys will do whatever you ask of them! Get creative, girlfriend!
Blog is very quiet today. BEAR: I am reading but am not sure if I am following....but like I said, I'm reading along for the ride.
ReplyDeleteI am still hanging out not feeling great in the mouth. Been sleeping the majority of the day but tomorrow I have to get up for hair color...important!!
VIG: Have a wonderful adventure and keep in touch with us or maybe one and that person could forward the emails on or post them to the blog. Have fun.
Well, guess I will go and find something soft for dinner....hope you are all having a good day.
I forgot to say to TINK, I'm sorry your results didn't turn out as you had hoped with the doctor. I guess I will understand more when I reach 39 like you. I think I am having some previews before I even get there. Seriously, I hope the doctor is able to give you something to help with the pain. xxoo
ReplyDeleteMO: I';m with you and the Mai Tai's. I can almost taste them now!! How are your Browns doing in their first preseason time? We are not starting out too great her in Bronco land. We lost to SF by one darn point. We threw three interceptions the first half. We have two new quarterbacks, all new coaches and who knows what else but I can hope and be the FAN!!
ReplyDeleteTINK: I have found in the past that going to bed and putting the covers over my head has helped in more than one time.
DIANNE....the Browns??? I may be a cynic, but it "ain't lookin to good"! I don't hold out a lot of hope for them!
ReplyDeleteHugs Tink. Sorry for the dissapointing news and the pain. I hope you get to feeling better. I hate that word, "degenerative" too..that is what the doctor said about one of my knees.
ReplyDeleteWhabby: All I can say is wow. That blog was very interesting. You sure know alot about space and light.
Tink; So sorry to hear your news. One day at a time.
ReplyDeleteDiane; You need to crawl under the covers with Tink. You can tell each other porn stories. Hope you feel better!
Bebbi; I went to that website and voted... I could only submit 1 vote, but I'll check back tonight and tomorrow to see if/when I can vote again.
Kgrl; So there's going to be an Owl Party at your place? Count me in, too!
ReplyDeleteHooray for Whabby Wednesdays! My number two is sharpened and I am ready to take notes.. I just hope there is not a test at the end of the series.. I stink at tests.. :O)
ReplyDeleteZona..
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Vig..
ReplyDeleteSafe travels, enjoy your journey, soak up a every minute of it, for it will be adventure.. I am looking forward to here all your stories..
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Jodi..
ReplyDeleteThinking of you, Dad and your entire family.. ♥♥♥
Scirish..
ReplyDeleteThinking about you as well, I know it is very tough.. keep your spirits up, your heart is full with your memories..
Tinka..
ReplyDeleteSo very sorry for all the pain you have to endure.. hopefully some meds will help you.. Oh and rest, that always helps.. ♥♥
Bebbi..
ReplyDeleteI will certainly go to the website and vote..
Shirley..
ReplyDeleteWe have had humid days here as well.. Hot and Sticky.. yuck!
Bebbi..
ReplyDeleteI voted.. :O)
Shirley..
ReplyDeleteBill is stopping by to greet our Jersey Area as well..
Thanks, Tink, Carol, Bebbi, etc etc.! Hope you're having fun!
ReplyDeleteUh oh! We may have lost Dianne and 'weenie! If at first you don't succeed...
Dianne and Mo When Bear said how "long" the spacecraft was, I imagined it positioned horizontally. Things didn't make sense for a minute until I realized that the cylindrical spacecraft is apparently positioned vertically. It's very tall but only wide enough for youa nd a light. Maybe if you re-read the blog with that in mind, it will make more sense.
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ReplyDeleteWHABBY...I'm not lost...I'm right here...in the corner with the dunce cap on!!
ReplyDeleteJUST LIN..Uh, ok!
BEAR: things r looking better. I'm three mai tias in to the lesson. Come on MO, catch up
ReplyDeleteDianne: LOL! Best way to learn!
ReplyDeleteJ/L: Exactly! It is most definitely vertical. And next week, I'm going to lift it a couple of feet above the ground...
'weenie: Remove that cap at once! LOL!
Dianne How are you feeling? Are your meds helping?
ReplyDeleteBEAR: things r looking better. I'm three mai tias in to the lesson. Come on MO, catch up
ReplyDeleteWhab, are we going to be traveling to any interesting places?
ReplyDeletebonacci: Yes! Yes! One of the consequences of time dilation is that you could travel in the spaceship to other stars and even other galaxies, if it attains a speed very close to c.
ReplyDeleteWhab, like through a wormhole?
ReplyDeleteI don't even know if I spelled that right. I've never typed that word before. Is it one word? Or two?
ReplyDeleteWhab... If we're going to be traveling close to C, do we get complimentary barf bags? I think I might need one.
ReplyDeleteBonach Maybe our scrapbooking owls could decorate our barf bags for us. LOL
ReplyDeleteSweet dreams.
ReplyDeleteI can send a case to the mainland....I buy those by the thousands for the cruise ship...we refer to them as "Aloha Bags"...
ReplyDeleteNight Hooters~
Bon: Nope! Wormholes are a hypothetical way to travel between two points faster than light. They are a speculative thing only, never proven to exist.
ReplyDeleteTime dilation, on the other hand, is a completely concrete phenomenon. That's one of my goals: to prove to you that it HAS to exist, because it falls quite naturally out of two very real things: C, and relative motion between two objects.
DONNA...HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! I hope it is a glorious day for you and your wishes come true.
ReplyDeleteWHABBY...I took off the cap so I could sleep! But I have it on standby for next Wednesday!!!
DIANNE...I hope you at least had my Mai Tais for me!
Whabbear if we travel near Vulcan can we stop so I can say "Hi" to Spock?
ReplyDeleteShirley: After all the "alternative time-line" stuff they did in this summer's Star Trek movie, ending up with a Spock who's obviously boinking Uhura, I'd have to say... yes! Obviously, anything's possible!
ReplyDeleteWhabbear I haven't seen the new Star Trek movie yet, but everyone tells me I should. I will be out soon in DVD so I will watch it then.
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I am claimimg first post for Thursday cause I'm the stats taker and I can do that. Anyone have a problem with that take it up with Maureen (you're going to back me up right MO?).