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Monday, November 10, 2008

No More H8!!!

by VIG

FOR WHABBEAR

Without editorializing or offering up my beliefs or anyone else's, I ask you to watch this video. Watch and think about an Owl we all know and love and who’s wedding we celebrated here on the blog not long ago and who is now having to deal with the fact that the majority who voted in his state believe his love and his marriage are not real and should not exist.




If you believe this is a global human right’s issue, what are you going to do about it?

107 comments:

  1. It's Monday!!

    VIG - thank you for thinking of our Dear Whabby today!!

    Whabby - continued (((HUGS))) to you...

    I hope everyone has an excellent day!!
    :-)

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  2. Morning Glories!

    MEK was first! Morning MEK!

    No More Hate! This law is so wrong in so many ways. It makes me dismayed in this day and age that division and trying to exclude and control people in our country is still going on and gaining strength.

    I will push to make sure everyone is guaranteed their rights in this country. If that is letter writing donating money to the cause and even marching if need be.

    I personally have learned so much in this election process about the far rights religious beliefs that it is out and out scaring me and making me very mad.

    Whabby I love you and your marriage is every bit as important as my own.

    Inalieable rights says it all. It does not say except for blacks, except for Indians, except for women, except for sexual orientation. It says for all!

    Great blog Vig!

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  3. Good Morning Hooters.

    Congrats on 1st MEK!!

    Hi Lynn.

    Vig- this is near and dear to my heart. As you know, I have a gay son who lives in CA. He does not have a significant other at this time. BUT- if he did, I want him to have the rights and respect afforded him that my straight son has.

    I can not tolerate in any way those who hide behing religion as the reaon for their hate and homophobia. To me that is bullshit. If you took everything the Bible says (as interputed by man)and followed it to the letter- we would be selling our sisters and so on.... you get my drift.
    I am less tolerant of this than I am of just plain stupidity.

    I actively support the Human Rights Campaign, I write letters and I speak out when I can. I will march, and head the line if I am able.

    Whabbear, I know that you marriage is real. It will always be real and I applaud you and Huz. We must overcome the days of Matthew Shepard and the days of church burnings. This country must move forward-not back and realize that:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

    I hope all you Hooters are able to have a nice day.

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  4. Good Morning Everyone!

    Hope you all are doing well.

    MEK, Congrats on First!!

    VIG, Thanks for the blog!

    Lynn D, hi! Totally agree with your post.

    Whabbear, I'm glad that you were able to have your wedding. I hope I'm correct in understanding that your marriage will be recognized....as Prop 8 will Not be retroactive. ;o)

    I also hope that this Prop 8 is quickly over turned so that our Dear Friend's TURTLE and Joey will be able to marry when they so choose!!!!!

    Hello to All the Owl's that post before and after me.
    ♥♥♥♥♥

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  5. Good Morning All - Be back in a few minutes.

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  6. Good morning and congrats on 1st Mek!

    Good morning Lynn D, Goldie, Birdee and Tinka!

    Vig great blog! I just don't understand why this is even an issue. People should be allowed to marry whoever they want and have all the legal rights that are offered to anyone. No one can tell me that's wrong. It's just plain common sense, and the right thing to do.

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  7. Good Morning Mek - Congrats on first.

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  8. Good Morning Lynn, Goldie and Birdee. Hope you are all fine this morning.

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  9. VIG - Thanks for writing the blog today. I see it's concerning our Bear. I will read it and be right back.

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  10. Congrats on first, MEK! Have a great day!

    VIG, very powerful blog today. I will never understand the people who choose to hate. I pitty them as they cannot live life fully with hate in their hearts. VIG, your question really made me think! Besides speaking out against it, what can I do to help? Tell me, owls! I'll do it!

    Goldie, I so agree with what you said about hiding behind religion.

    Whabby, you and Huz will always be married in my eyes.

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  11. VIG - Great blog. I am just watching ABC and seeing tens of thousands protesting about the ban on gay marriage. It said the churches are taking the "heat". Let's hope this is the start of something that ends with "Justice for All". Let's hope so. In the meantime we send our love to Bear and Huz, Rosie, K_Girl and all of our other dear friends who should have the same rights to marry as anyone else.

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  12. Good Morning Shirley and Sandie. Have a great day.

    Sandie - The sun you sent me from Georgia seems to be still here.

    I am off to get my 'fur babies' groomed today. I will see you all later.

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  13. Wishing every owl who lands today or is too busy to take a break in the nest, have a great Monday.

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  14. Hi Owls!

    Thank you for your honest responses! I know this is a subject that most feel very strongly about - whether for or against. But I knew that we would respect each others opinions and so appeciate that you have!

    Yes, I did write this for Whabbear and for Joey and for KGirl and for anyone who is not afforded the same rights as the majority. For whatever reason. And I know that historically it has taken those that are not impacted directly to get on board and to fight for the rights of those that have been marginalized. Hence, my question, if you believe that banning love and marriage, however that might look, is wrong...what are YOU going to do about it!

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  15. VIG - You were posting while I was marching. Good Morning my friend. I see a bit of sunshine out there this morning.

    As Canadians can anyone give us suggestions as to what we can do to help? I am willing to do whatever I can.

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  16. Awwwww, thanks so much you guys! I think a lot of people are waking up and feeling the outrage that I'm feeling.

    Until all of us are free, none of us are.

    MEK, I was guilty of tunnel vision in this election... I was so focussed on Prop 8 here in California that I ignored your proposition, and the one in Florida.

    I've been doing my homework on them since last Tuesday, though, and there's no question that this issue is national... not confined to California. I watched a YouTube video of an interview with two Arizona politicians, one pushing the proposition, one opposed to it, but neither one would address the core issue.

    The interviewer asked the supporting politician how a gay marriage would negatively impact HIS marriage, and he outright ducked the question, simply refusing to answer it.

    And then there's Florida. OMG! JAX, if you're reading this, if you look at the breakdown, by county, only one... one!... Monroe County (which encompasses the Keys and Key West), had more No than Yes votes. Many of the rural counties went more than 90% Yes.

    What is going on here? Why are the majority of people across the country still convinced that I and my fellow gays and lesbians are a clear and present threat to them, their way of life, and their children's well being?

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  17. Hi Owls!
    ~
    That was a great video and blog VIG, thank you for sharing.
    ~
    {{{TURTLE}}}
    {{{Whabbear}}}
    {{{Joey}}}
    I voted no on prop 2 (which is the same as prop 8), but sadly it passed. :(
    ~
    Guten Tag To:
    MEK
    Lynn D
    Goldie
    Birdee
    Tinkatia
    Shirley
    Sandie
    and all who climb in later. :)
    ~
    From area 51-
    Tink,
    I am painting my pedastal pots the same color as I am painting the front door. (they sit on either side of the entry way). Not really getting ready for spring, just trying to shake things up a bit! :)
    ~
    Off to finish my work! *MUAH!*

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  18. Hi Bear!
    I was typing and didn't see you!
    ~

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  19. Bear!
    Yes, I did see that! It sickens me.
    I do believe that they had the wording rather confusing and I know that 1 of my neighbors voted 'yes' and thought she was supporting gay marriage until I corrected her. She felt horrible. I also wonder how many others may have done that.
    I do find it apalling that any human being could vote to keep another human being from not having equal rights.
    We are all different, yet the same. We are all one and should be equal.
    I love ya my friend!

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  20. JAX: I so appreciate your No vote on Prop 2!

    OK, VIG, thanks so much for letting a bit of politics intrude on the nest today! And in answer to your challenge, here's four concrete things you can do, Owls:

    1. If you're a Republican, and vote for Republican candidates for state offices, please write them a letter stating your opposition to their position on gay rights. Virtually all the Republican members of the California assembly came out in support of Prop 8, and I suspect the same was true of Republicans in Arizona, Florida, and Arkansas (which I didn't mention in my last post, but which passed an incredibly shameful ban on adoption rights for unmarried couples).

    2. If you attend a church that preaches support for anti-gay measures and anti-gay legislation, please make your opposition to those positions known, both to the church hierarchy, and to your own priest or minister. Talk to them, and let your opinion be heard.

    3. I suspect there's hardly a single owl in the nest who is in favor of legislated prejudice and bigotry towards me, Huz, Kgirl, or anyone. However, the numbers from this election speak loud and clear. There can't be too many degrees of freedom between you and people in your everyday lives who DO support anti-gay legislation and constitutional amendments, who DO think that Kgirl and I are intrinsically morally disordered individuals who doesn't deserve the same human rights as they do.

    I'm talking your husbands here, owls. I'm talking your siblings, and their families. Your friends and your neighbors. Your co-workers.

    Talk to them. Talk to the ones you know feel this way. Let them know how you feel about it, and why.

    4. March in solidarity with us! This coming weekend, a national day of protest is being planned, with public marches happening clear across the country.

    Get involved! Find out where your local march is taking place, and join it!

    Because one thing is crystal clear from the outcome of last week. We gays and lesbians can't do this alone. If you straight folks, the overwhelming majority, don't come to see this as continuation of a civil rights struggle that you support, just as strongly as you supported the civil rights movement for African Americans and Women, we shall never overcome.

    Thank you!

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  21. Happy Monday Owls.

    For some reason I can't view the video. My computer has been acting up, but I am rushing out the door for a 9:30 appointment, then I have to get a flu shot. I will work on it when I get back.

    Yay for MEK getting first. You are really up early.

    I'll have to read the comments when I get back. Have a great day everyone.

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  22. Good morning!

    Congrats to MEK for 1st today! YAY!

    VIG this is such a great blog. I watched the election returns closely last week, and was shocked that Prop. 8 was passing.

    Most everyone I know was against it, and it was so sad to watch it pass by such a close margin.

    Prop. 2 passed by a landslide (which I was very happy about). Prop. 2 allows farm animals raised for food the luxury of being able to turn around or spread their wings.

    The animals won rights, why didn't the humans?

    Thank you for the thought provoking blog VIG, we all must help promote no more H8.

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  23. I agree with every Owl who has written ahead of me. This voting no on Prop 8 breaks my heart because everyone should have equal rights in this day and time except for criminals. I had been there listening to Wabbear in chat making his wedding day preperations and I was so happy for him. Last week I went to my Chiropracter and my PT was trying to tell me why the church feels a same sex wedding is wrong. My PT rambled on and on until I finally had to be rude and just tell him to please shut up.I don't like to talk to someone that way but we were just bickering back and forth and my opinions do count. I'm not that eloquent with words so to Prop 8 and those who vote yes I just say "bite me". Seriously I will continue to sign petitions and add my name to all of the lists that PozMikey and others bulletin out. I have a cousin who is Gay. My best friend growing up, God rest his soul was Gay and I have friends who have Gay siblings. They deserve to all be treated with respect and the same rights as others.
    I have to run. ReneeEve kept me up late last night chatting.I over slept.
    I also checked Outatuune's text messages on Twitter and she sure has been having fun on their cruise.

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  24. GOOD MORNING MEK LYNN GOLDIE BEAR SACBARB BIRDEE TINK BIRDEE JAX EBJ VIG SHIRLEY GOLDIE & ALL WHO FOLLOW

    I grew up in SF and have gay friends including my own brother. I have always been so grateful to have been raised in a city that is very diversified, filled with people from all over the world. Since the Castro turned into a mostly gay neighborhood many years ago it became a wonderful, safe place filled with great shops. I'm sorry. I guess I am rambling, but this topic makes me remember back to how I have always felt and every time I do think about it I just can't under stand why people think the way they do. My mistake is forgetting the rest of California doesn't necessarily think like the Bay Area.

    One thing the republicans now realize is if they want to succeed they need to get out of peoples bedrooms. Churches need to get out of peoples bedrooms also. Churches are the main culprit as so many hand out agendas for voting. Another words if you are a good christian you need to follow our rules. People really do follow like sheep.

    FEAR &IGNORANCE are the ENEMY. I certainly don't understand what the YES people mean when they say RESTORE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE vote yes. Did traditional marriage go somewhere?

    I do write often to my representatives regarding issues. I don't know how much that will help at this point. There are protests all over and I that is something I could do. Maybe I am fooling myself, but I keep hearing that possibly the vote could be over turned.

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  25. Our own govener has changed his thinking, and now supports same sex marriage. He is quoted in todays SF newspaper.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/10/MN4E141B3P.DTL&type=politics

    (Sorry, I still haven't learned to make a hyperlink) :(

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  26. MEK Congrats on first today. Are you still having sunshine?

    VIG Wonderful blog today and I really like the video you picked.

    I think the main problem is that so many people believed the Prop 8 ads and their scare tactics. I didn't see enough of a campaign against those lies. It seems to me that the main groups that voted for Prop 8 are the groups most involved with their churches and they believed that Prop 8 would force their churches to perform ceremonies they didn't believe in or else lose their tax free status. I do not happen to be religious but I understand why people would resist anything they believed would be a threat to their church. Frankly, I don't think the No on Prop 8 campaign did a good job of correcting the lies being put out on the air waves. My friends and family all voted against Prop 8 as did everyone I talked to except for one acquaintance and she was misinformed that a) her church would be threatened, and b) that civil unions provide the same rights and protections as marriages.

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  27. I meant to write "tax exempt status" not "tax free" but my post is too long to delete and rewrite. :)

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  28. VIG I apologize. I forgot to thank you for this morning's blog.

    Hello DREAMA & SLIN

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  29. Well, I am back from my appointment and I got shot (flu) and now I have to pack for my trip to San Diego tomorrow.

    I still have not been able to view the video. But I can tell you I have STRONG feelings about Prop 8. My 83 year old Uncle is gay and he and his partner have been together for over 37 years. He lived with us for a while while he was going to UCLA for his Masters degree and I was never aware of the prejudice against gay people because he was always just one of us.

    Bear, I have talked to people at church about Prop 8 but I haven't talked to the priest. I will take your advice and discuss it with him. I don't understand the prejudice of 'Christians" because they believe that we were all made by God and God loves us all, so why would he want any of us treated differently?

    Maybe I can take the grand dog and join one of those marches in SD this weekend.

    I second all the comments that have already been made, especially J/L's. I also think not enough emphasis was made to dispel the propaganda (lies) put forth by the group in favor of Prop 8.

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  30. For those of you that can't see the video, you might want to try copying and pasting the address below (sorry I don't know how to do a link!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrVgkGej4Ck

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  31. VIG, thanks for that link. I was able to view it on You Tube. Thanks too for writing this insightful blog today.

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  32. Off to pick up my 'fur babies' from the groomers. Hope everyone is having a great afternoon.

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  33. VIG - Great blog!! WHABBY thank you for the ideas on what I can do. MR. JODI'S uncle is gay, as is my nephew and I truly believe that this is a civil rights issue. When the time is right, I would love to know that my nephew would have the same choice/rights as I did.

    I have to get back to making supper, but I just wanted to give my support on such an important issue!!!

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  34. Thanks TINKA - The same to you. Speaking of fur babies, have you ever read "THE FUR PERSON" by May Sarton?

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  35. Hi HODI, I have missed you. I was just about to write to you on MS to see if you were okay.

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  36. Tinka From Area 51, I want to thank you for your instruction on how to take a nap without becoming "hungover". Next time, I will set my alarm.

    SacBarb Have fun in San Diego!

    Jodi I see you're still serving Apple Crisp. Yum!

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  37. Vig:
    I have always been a supported of anyone who is in love, whatever the relationship is, as long as one is happy that is all that matters to me.

    I can't for the life me understand how anyone or anything can dictate who qualifies as a married couple, state nor religion should not do this. It should be a personal choice and right for everyone.

    I do believe one day, all will be able to marry no matter the circumstances. I have to believe that, I have to have hope...

    Great Blog, thanks for writing it and taking the time to send it off to me...

    and for Whabby,
    In my eyes you are husband and husband and that will always be..

    :O)

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  38. J/L:
    I did not see Tinkas comment on her instructions for napping...

    What a great idea...

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  39. Birdee:
    I read your comment and thought...

    Oh no, Turtle and Joey are getting married ;O)

    Silly, Birdee...

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  40. Our friend Renee Eve is going thru a very rough time, If we can all send her good wishes, I know it would help..

    Perhaps a note on her myspace or just a hello here on the nest...

    She is my thoughts, and of course I am sending her many smiles...

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  41. Vig:
    I just got your msg, I made a little tweak... Next time e-mail me as well as I don't check myspace daily at work, however I do check my e-mail..

    cpgem88@gmail.com

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  42. I am shutting down at work...


    See ya all from home...

    :O)

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  43. VIG: My thoughts on this issue are pretty simple, I believe in love. I really think that's all that should matter...to anyone.

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  44. SLANI - Thanks for thinking of me. I had the weekend off. Saturday I went to my daughter's WYSO concert in Madison, then on Sunday I fought a migraine and did some laundry!!!

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  45. SLIN - lol!!! I see you did laundry like me....not TINA!!! And yes, it appears that I'm still serving Apple Crisp. ENJOY!!!

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  46. ZONA & CAROL - I agree.....love is all that should matter!!!

    ZONA - I know what BeatleS song you were referring to.....lmfao!!! SWAK!!!

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  47. Hi All!

    Congrats on first Mek!

    Long Monday for me, but I had to have a little hot tea and stop in for a moment. I hope everyone is doing well today.

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  48. Lani - I am home again with such pretty girls. No I haven't read "THE FUR PERSON" by May Sarton, but I will look for it. What is it about?

    Just_Lin - You are welcome. Power Naps can be refreshing but a long nap can 'wipe you out' for the rest of the day. Doctors actually train themselves to sleep for ten minutes and be ready to operate again. Now that is what I would like to learn how to do.

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  49. Bebbi - Did you let me win or did you go and have dinner? That's what I am about to do now. See you all later.

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  50. LOL Tink, I went off to MS looking around and came back to you racing me! I totally let ya win ;)

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  51. Hi everyone, it is 34 deg. here in Michigan!

    Vig, great blog. I have written to Whabbear expressing my feelings on this passionate issue. It breaks my heart to see him and all concerned being hurt by this.
    No disrespect to anyone here, but in my experience,Republicans and "Christians" are not the only ones not backing this proposal. In my area there are many ignorant people of all ages, nationalities, Christians non Christians, the "older generations, I even have a gay friend who thinks that legal marriage between gays & Lesbians are not necessary!
    I say this because #1 I am Christian, #2 I am a Republican, and #3 I am pro Gay marriages.
    You might be surprised how many Christian/Republicans are supporters. So please don't pigeon hole us..
    ok, I'm off my soap box!
    Hope I didn't piss anyone off. If I did I am sorry and can sign off...

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  52. TINK, It is a small paperback book written from a tom cats point of view regarding finding a home. When I read it I felt like a cat had really written it. I wonder if it is still in print.

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  53. TINK, I just looked it up on Amazon and it is still in print. And...excuse me, it's Gentleman Cat.

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  54. Mary Thank you for writing your last comment and reminding us that we can't make assumptions about how an individual may have voted based on their religion or political affiliations. We are all individuals. Just like I found it surprising that the Forty-Niners former QB, Steve Young, who happens to be Mormon, had several signs posted on his house and in his yard AGAINST Prop 8.

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  55. Bebbi I just noticed that you got a quiet 69. Congrats!

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  56. Bebbi - I will let you win the next one.

    Lani - Thanks, I will see if it is at our local book store, 'Bolen Books.'

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  57. Thanks J/L...! It was a good one..snuck it right in there.

    Tink: Okay, sounds like a deal! :)

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  58. MARY, You are right. We shouldn't put people in categories. I know that is how I sounded this morning, but didn't mean to imply every Republican or church goer was in favor of yes on 8. I too am Christian and voted NO on 8. Many Democrats voted yes. My irritation is with the Republican party, not the republican population. Thank you for what you wrote, as it is a reminder to watch how one words comments.

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  59. Mary: No, you sure didn't piss me off... I just hope I haven't upset you!

    It's people like Carol and yourself, the Republicans and Catholics in the nest, who may be able to help us the most in this struggle! Elected Republican and Catholic church leaders can easily dismiss the views of someone like myself, a left coast democratic atheist, but they will listen to you! My hope is that you might work to help us change minds WITHIN the church, and WITHIN the Republican Party, by working from the inside.

    In other words, we NEED you! Badly!

    Example: SacBarb! Thank you for thinking about talking to your priest! And for thinking about marching in San Diego next weekend.

    I am humbled and so appreciative of the support I see from ALL the owls!

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  60. Hey J/L and Lani, Pacifica made the Sac news. They just did a story about the Pacifica PD having one hour mandatory exercise time for which they will get paid. No more donut shops for them.

    Bear and VIG, Thanks for making me aware that voting no on the Prop is not enough. It's an uphill journey, but it needs all of us, just like when women and coloreds (as they were called at that time) were finally able to vote. If not us, then who?????

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  61. Whabbear,Justlynn,Lani, One for all and all for one!! I will do my part to try to even the field in this part of the country. A lot of people are set in their ways, but...so am I LOL!!

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  62. MARY, Right on, as we said in the 60s

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  63. SACBARB, Thanks for the info. I will look in the Tribune this week. Bad for the economy. LOL
    Either I am getting too old, or the police are way too young. Just about all of them look like teenagers.

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  64. Good evening Hooters,

    Wonderful blog Vig, and thank you!

    I too am surprised at the Proposition 8 vote and things need to change, as we are all created equal. I also agree with Mary that there are more Republicans/Christians (of which I am also one) that support same sex marriages, than don't. IMHO Yes, those that do not, need to be enlightened, but we can not be compartmentalized as all having the same opinions.

    I agree with you Whabby, this issue needs addressing, and as proven by past history, i.e. The emancipation of all slavery. I know, a very strange comparison, but it is parallel with proving a positive end result.

    It WAS the religious leaders and white women who can take credit for the emancipation of all slavery in 1838. Their actions, after much hard work, finally drew enough attention to set forth congress to place into law the much needed freedom of all slavery in this country. So maybe all the planned marching and rallies will help. I surely hope so.

    In closing, I agree with you Whabby, and the love in your heart felt for another human being.

    ((hugs)) to my friends, K_girl, Whabby, Joey, Goldies's son, and anyone connected in any way to our big loving Owl's Nest, and hoping only positive results will be forthcoming.


    Ronnie

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  65. Waving a "Good evening" wing to all of you...

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  66. I just heard on the news that Arnold thinks 8 has a very good chance of being overturned.

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  67. Btw, my comment above was the emancipation of slavery to the British Colonies.

    President Lincoln was was an anti-slavery Republican when he took office in 1860 and with the help of many staunch supporters he abolished slavery here in 1865.

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  68. Hello Everyone...I have been absent from the nest doing a little celebrating this weekend. I want to send a big thank you to MARY/MI,ZONA,EBJ,ITEACH,BEBBI,CAROL,LYNND,MO,TINK,RONNIE,SCIRISH,MEK,SANDIE,JAX,DONNAJEAN,JUST/LIN,LANI,SHIRLEY,VIG,DREAMA,SACBARB,IBEBOLD AND BEAR for the Birthday wishes.Thank you also to anyone I might have missed. It was so nice to receive so many nice comments as I creep up that ladder of age! TINK, no, you are still older than I am..I haven't caught up yet but I am on your heels.

    I had a very nice weekend with dinners, lunches and a nice brunch yesterday and then I pooped out and took a long nap.

    So I think I read that TURTLE AND JOEY are getting married? I thought that was what BIRDIE said earlier too! Are we off to Hawaii?

    SACBARB: Have fun in SanDiego. How long are you going there for and it is a vacation? I was thinking maybe you were going there to cheer for the Chargers!

    MO: I received your myspace telling me you and the Browns gave the Broncos the win for my bday---thank you very much!

    Sending out a hello and good thoughts to ReneeEve.

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  69. Tink: Your blog yesterday brought back some good and bad memories. My first husband (children's father) and I had a special song, "Kind of a Drag" and I don't remember who sang it. Hello---now why would we have picked that song?

    VIG: I can feel the passion in your blog today. I am like Zona..remember the old song "Love Makes The World Go Round"? What can't we just all be that way? They were talking about Prop 8 on The View today and were pretty much saying the same as some of you mentioned...that the truth was not shown during the election for this Prop. Why oh why can't we deal with the economy and how we are all going to pay bills instead of who someone marries? Let love prevail! BEAR, I am so sorry you are going through so much right now and sick also. Take care...

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  70. Yea, I hit the 100 mark. There will probably never be a day I will be first on this blog but I can hit the big 100!

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  71. I am so cracking up over Turtle & Joey getting married! I can just see all the little turtles running around happily in Hawaii!!

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  72. Hi MARY, I am having the same visual.. maybe you can be in charge of the music!

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  73. HI Dianne - Thanks for commenting on my blog. I knew you were having lots of fun celebrating your birthday. You are one year closer in age to me now, at least until April when I jump ahead again. I guess I will have to accept the fact that you will always be a few years younger than I am. So if you stay at 39 that's okay by me.

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  74. Maybe we should inform the lucky couple of their upcoming nuptials LOL!!

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  75. Dianne: Thank you! I couldn't agree more... why do we have to squander our energy, time and money on this issue? Why is it such a fight? Why did the "Yes on 8" crowd go the trouble of gathering all those signatures and forcing this onto the ballot? Why?

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  76. MARY, Maybe we could have SHIRLEY plan a "surprise wedding"! We will all dress in turtle clothes..how cute will we all look? I guess we really need BIRDIE more involved since she is the one that made the announcement!

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  77. Oh, well. At least we have a wedding in the nest to look forward to.

    Freedom for gay men and lesbians to marry! LOL!

    I can't figure something out, though... should I be a bridesmaid, or a groomsmaid?

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  78. World War 1 ended on the 11th hour of the 11th month in 1918. We have two minutes of silence at 11:00 tomorrow at all the Remembrance Day ceremonies across Canada. Is it the same in the U.S.A.? Just wondering.

    Good Night and God Bless all Little Owls everywhere. Love, Tinka

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  79. Tinka, I forgot to tell you how much I enjoyed the song you picked yesterday. Your picture was awesome! What a beauty! You must have turned many heads.

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  80. Tinka, tomorrow is our Veterans Day.

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  81. Good game tonight...I don't know who to cheer for since it is the 49ers and the Cardinals. Who is cheering the most...JUSTLIN,LANI,MEK OR ZONA???

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  82. BEAR: You can be whatever you want...a groomsmaid or bridesmaid...remember, freedom of choice!

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  83. I vote for Bride's-groom/maid!

    I'm getting wonky I better get to bed lol!
    I am volunteering to make lunch for our local Veterans & their family tomorrow.

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  84. Thought I would change my avatar before heading for bed.
    Have a good Veteran's Day tomorrow everyone!

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  85. Mary/ Mi that's right. Tomorrow is Veteran's Day. I didn't realize it will already be Nov. 11.
    I missed some of the comments as I always do but I see that Joey is marrying K'Girl. Nah!! LOL Baby turles are so cute though. Ah but with me a baby anything is cute! I even think baby Gators are cute.
    :0)

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  86. Good night Owls. I'm sleepy. ReneeEve kept me up way past midnight last night chatting. She told me that Anthony seems happier now so hopefully things will keep staying on a positive path.

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  87. Dianne, My son and DIL are going on a cruise for a week so I am going to stay at their house with my grand dog. I'll be back on the 20th. I will probably be unplugged while I am gone.

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  88. Happy Late Evening...

    waving howdy to everyone!!

    I hope everyone has an excellent Veteran's Day!!

    A special thank you to all who serve!!

    nite

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  89. Good night everyone. I am headed to bed.

    I may be unplugged while I am in San Diego. I will be back on the 20th.

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  90. Good morning HOoters!!!

    I've got fresh coffee for those that need a boost and a few loaves of Carmel Apple Bread on the counter. ENJOY!!!

    ITEACH - Are you done with Twilight yet? I told you it was good!!

    GOLDIE & ZONA - How's your journey with Biff coming?

    Happy Veteran's Day....and a huge THANK YOU to all who serve!!

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  91. If you are observing Remembrance Day like I am here in Canada or Vetran's Day in the US I hope everyone takes a moment to remember those who sacrificed their lives for our freedom. Also please remember those who are still making sacrifices on our behalf around the world.

    After some last minute phone calls I was able to purchase a cross that my sister and I will lay, in honor of our Dad, later this morning during the Remembrance Day service here in town.

    Hug a Vet today and tell them "Thank You".

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