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Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Why I support a Public Option

by Lynnd

The story below is from a blog by Shannyn Moore. I did not share all of it, just the main part of Lennie’s story. You can check out Shannyn at:

Shannyn Moore blog


I can imagine awful things. That's why I'm a terrible flier. This week, I sat across from something I couldn't imagine.

I remember the story. On December 1, 2007, a Palmer, Alaska man attacked his father and his father's fiancé with a machete in the middle of the night. Leaving them for dead, he drove to Anchorage and shot three people, killing one, injuring two.

Tuesday, I had lunch with Lennie. She survived the machete attack that killed her fiancé. The hospital stopped counting after fifty "chop wounds", from head to toe. One of her two uninjured fingers still wears the ring of the man she loved. She smiles a lot. While we were talking, she liked something I said and offered a "high 2 and ¾" instead of a "high 5".

She told me about that horrifying, long ago night. She described the sound a machete makes when it hits your skull. She didn't feel her ear being severed, or her fingers. Her funny bone is gone, but she joked about her sense of humor being intact. She recently lost her dog, Bear, who defended her during the attack.

Her assailant screamed while he chopped her, "Why are you making me do this?" over and over. Her voice hushed when she shared with me that an angel helped her reach the phone to dial 911. Unseen hands held her legs up to keep her from bleeding to death while help was on the way.
Lennie was released from the hospital with only five days worth of pain pills and the inability to feed, bathe, use the bathroom or dress herself. She didn't have insurance.

She told me she would rather be hit with a machete than go through the de-humanizing experience of not having health coverage. Lennie supports a public option. She doesn't want anyone to have to fight harder for health care than she did against a possessed man determined to kill her.
The man wielding the machete, Chris Rogers, is now serving time in prison. He's entitled to health care under the 8th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. His victim doesn't want the death penalty for him; she doesn't even want his health coverage taken away. She wants everyone to have the health care they need. The surgeries to repair her claw-like hand, like the leg brace that helps her walk, were pro-bono by doctors who were unable to watch the current system ignore her suffering.

"At least I'm not bitter," she likes to say, usually after some nightmare story about pain management. We chatted over chicken and grilled cheese about public option possibilities. I shared with her my meeting Howard Dean a few weeks ago. I told her how the message between President Clinton, Senator Kennedy, Dr. Dean, Valerie Jarrett, AFL-CIO leader Richard Trumka and others were rallying the grass roots across the nation for public health care. I assured her the public option was already a compromise from a single payer system...and we were going to win. We had to, it's a life or death matter.

"I sure hope so," she said. "I have a pre-existing condition. It's called attempted murder."

This is just one story of a failed health care system. Calling it health care is being generous in my mind. I personally know two people who WORK and can not get insurance because of pre-existing conditions. One has Hep C (contracted through surgery and a blood transfusion) and the other has a heart condition, he lost his job found new work but the insurance plan will not cover him. In both cases medical attention is required, not an option. It literally is about life and death.

I am at the point in this issue that I would like to go before a death panel and beg them to take me out! So I don’t have to see the suffering around me and feel helpless to do anything. That and the fact I cannot take the crazy fear mongering around me. Just my humble opinion.



Get the facts please visit:

Health Action Now

This site is from AARP. The myth versus fact section is very enlightening.


97 comments:

Birdee said...

Good Morning Everyone!!!

Birdee said...

Ha!! now off to read.....

DeeDee said...

BAM!! 3

Birdee said...

WOW!!!! :o( is about all I can say right now......

I do have to agree with the guy in the ad...Ins. Co's do make life or death decision's when they deny someone's treatment.

They want your premium payment's and then refuse to payout when needed.

Tina~in_ut said...

5~

MEK in AZ said...

Happy Tuesday!!

Good morning..

Birdee congrats on first.

DeeDee - BAM on third!!

Tina - howdy on five!!

cpgem - I'm sorry that you didn't get to get your puppy.. :-(

I hope everyone has an excellent day!
:-)

DeeDee said...

Good Morning....this link pretty much shows who the culprits are....

People are being whipped into a frenzy by the people who stand to profit the most....

The system...like most things...is screwed up....we have an opportunity to fix it......

If people don't get on the bus...we are going to end up with the same old thing....healthcare for the healthy rich....and very little for the majority of Americans.

We have really just started a journey with this president...he needs the time...and he needs the support we excitedly gave him during the campaign. I don't think a president has ever come into office with a facing the huge problems that Obama is having to deal with. To his naysayers...I say..."patience and support"....

Rome certainly wasn't built in a day.....

heres the link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xlqxSRhARU

Lynn D said...

Morning Glories!

Congrats on first Birdee!

I am sorry if this is a downer blog for some but I am very passionate about this subject. The part of the blog in Italics (thank you Carol) are my comments. I have many more stories I could share but won't. Even some of my own personal experiences of not having health insurance for a time. I agree with Lennie it was dehumanizing and embarassing.

I have tried to keep myself very informed on the issues surrounding healthcare reform. My opinion at this point is that it no longer is about getting a Public Option for people and more about shutting down any reform at all.

I am speaking out because I feel that if I don't then I am a co-conspirator with the insurance industry in denying people life saving care and I just can't stand for that.

I am getting ready to pick an event in our area to attend about healthcare reform. I think I will attend the candlelight vigil with people sharing their stories about denied care tomorrow night in Olympia WA.

There are many marches being organzied around the country including a march on Washington DC on September 13th. I will be out of town visiting with other owls at the bbq so cannot attend the march locally. So decided to do one before I leave.

If you would like to participate on Sept. 13th Check out:

www.marchforhealthcare.com/events

This will direct you to an event in your area.

My wish is for no family to be in the position of deciding on treatment or no treatment because they do not want to burden their families with expenses whether they have healthcare or not.

I am reading to many stories of people with insurance being denied life saving treatments, so do not be lulled into thinking I have Insurance so I am safe. It is just not true anymore.

Tina~in_ut said...

LynnD~ I knew the blog was from you~ :D ....finally got to read~ Such a sad story.....I can't even imagine....I don't understand how someone could deny Lennie....and live with themselves~

Every time our insurance changes at work, I go thru the same thing. Will the new insurance cover me? I have a pre-existing condition! They have said yes each time, but I get so nervous until I see that they actually do cover it!

DeeDee~ I don't have patience! :)~ but I do love Rome~ :D

Birdee~ Congrats on 1st you fuzzy girl you~

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Tinkatia said...

Good Morning Everyone.

Lynn D said...

Morning MEK! Hope you are enjoying your new pool!

DeeDee I love Rachel! My 74 year old Aunt has just discovered her and she to in in love. The woman never swears but she called me the other day and said "Did you see Rachel go after those bastards"? I nearly fell off my chair!

Tina I am so happy to hear about an insurance that does the right thing! (((Hugs))) I just wish you never had to worry about it.

PS there is a great video on the Shannyn Moore blog this morning that explains healthcare reform in very simple terms.

goldie said...

Bravo Lynn! A wonderful blog.

As one of the lucky ones who have health insurance. I am also one of the millions who if I lose it is "uninsurable".

I believe it is every persons right to have health insurance, and I do not believe that the officials who decide these matters should have better care than you and I can get.

Congrats on 1st birdee!

Have a great day Hooters!!

By the way- in case I missed it- where is the traveling necklace now?

Just_Lin said...

50 for Tina. LOL

Zona said...

Good Morning!

LYNND: Everytime I read a story like this it makes me both sad and angry. How can any society deny even the most basic healthcare to it's people? I don't understand it.

After my dad passed away, my mom had to get Cobra insurance. She could only afford to carry it for a year..after that she just prayed she'd be ok until she was old enough to receive Medicare. That was 4 years of heavy duty praying..she was worried about it all the time.

Mr Z and I are lucky enough to have good insurance, but I am also very aware that in this economy, what we have on Friday could be gone by Monday. I think if everyone thought this way, you'd see a lot more people looking seriously at health care reform. The 'it can't happen to me' menatality has got to stop...because it can happen..to anyone.

Great blog LYNND...I love how passionate you are on this subject. I've learned so much about it from you. Thank you.

whabbear said...

I believe health care should be available to everybody, and I'm willing to pay higher taxes for it.

I think high quality education should be available to everybody, and I'm willing to pay more taxes for it.

I think we should be a space-faring species, and I'm willing to pay higher taxes for it.

I think we should make scientific and medical research a higher priority, and I'm willing to pay higher taxes for it.

I think we should fight fewer wars, and I'd like my current taxes to fund the development of fewer weapons of mass destruction. The funding should be diverted to the activities above.

Zona said...

BIRRDEE!! Congrats on FIRST you sweet fuzzy chickenowl you! :D

DEEDEE: Thanks for the link, I'm going to check it out right after I post this.

Waving HI to TINKA, TINA, GOLDIE, MEK and J/LIN!

Just_Lin said...

Birdee Congrats on being first today.

DeeDee Congrats on 3. Thanks for the link. Love Rachel.

Tina Congrats on 5. Did you see that I got 50 again? LOL

Tinka Congrats on 10.

Goldie Congrats on 13. LOL

LynnD Congrats on a great and timely blog. This discussion is so important and the opportunity to really have serious discourse is being hampered by a group of loud mouths. It's criminal in my opinion. I belong to an HMO and when I stopped working full time, went on their conversion plan after COBRA ran out. This year they raised my premium to over $900/mo so I chose different covereage with a higher co-pay and deductible. I am paying $646/mo. Like many of you, I have pre-existing conditions now so I don't dare not have coverage. They kind of have us over a barrel.

Just_Lin said...

Bear That makes sense to me.

Zona You are absolutely right!

Tina~in_ut said...

lmbo J/L~

Lynn D said...

Whabby I could not agree more!!

Goldie thank you! It makes me sad that we have to consider ourselves lucky to have any insurance.

Zona: (((Hugs))) I have visions of many people on their knees right now hoping to stay healthy. Sorry as much as I believe in prayer it seems like a pretty ify option.

J/L Mr. Lynn D and I have Group Health Co-operative for insurance. When Mr. Lynn D first signed us up we paid nothing (he works for the state and it was a benefit), then one year we had to pay $100.00 a month because of rising costs. No big deal we could handle it. Well in the last 3 years it kept creeping up. We are now paying $500.00 a month and the state pays $500.00 a month. So we are paying $6,000.00 dollars a year to keep our insurance. The statistics say that most insurance has gone up in the last 3-4 years by as much as 42 percent. Well it proves true by what we are paying.

I would like to point out that many in congress and senate keep talking about co-op care. I give a big raspberry to that! Our costs have gone up and our care has gone down. This will not save money for Americans. Tho they are "non-profit" in designation, it does not cap what they pay their CEO's etc.....

One last note for all. The average American who has insurance is currently paying 1100.00 to 1900.00 out of their payments for uninsured or people who can no longer cover their bills through your insurance company.

So the argument that we don't want to pay for the lazy won't get a job etc..... is just a talking point because we are paying! In higher insurance costs.

Okay have to get some laundry done.

Just_Lin said...

Tina That may need a recount. ;)

Tina~in_ut said...

j/l~ only if I delete my comment! :)~

goldie said...

Hi everyone.

Whabbear- I believe I am already paying higher taxes, so everyone should have it all!

Hope everyone is having a good day!

Tina~in_ut said...

i just feel like commenting~ :D

Tina~in_ut said...

that felt good~

Zona said...

Well I just finished my afternoon swim..I'm really going to miss it when it gets cold...around Thanksgiving.. ;)

Tina~in_ut said...

i have a tummy ache! I wonder if my insurance will cover that~

Just_Lin said...

Tina Maybe you have gas.

Just_Lin said...

It sure is quiet in the nest today. I hope everyone is having a really good day.

Tina~in_ut said...

J/L~ and you've never even met me~ hmmmmmmm~ WHO'S BEEN TALKING?!!!!!~

Maureen said...

LYNN...what a topical blog. There has to be some reform and SOON. When I lost my job at Pfaltzgraff, my COBRA would have cost over 1400 a month because we had awesome insurance coverage. I could not afford that, so I didn't have any insurance. I too had a pre-existing condition and I paid 60 bucks a month for one of my scripts because the pharmacy matched Costco prices. When I started at Ultra, they fucked me over so I went over 90 days uninsured. When my insurance kicked in, I found out I was NOT fully covered because of the pre-exisiting condition. What kind of shit is that? Had the insurance kicked in on the 89th day it would have been fully covered. Then when I lost my job at Ultra, I did take the Cobra, at $500 a month. My insurance now costs me $42 a month in premium but I have huge deductibles...and I fricking work for a hospital. Go figure!

I will rant some more in another post!

night.owls.sb said...

Birdee..

Happy 1.. didn't you get 1 yesterday? if so you are def on a roll..

Lynn..

No worries about bringing the blog down, its something that is def important to you, so it is surly worthy of a daily blog..

night.owls.sb said...

I was busy at work today.. I am on cloud nine.. and the strange thing is I am still not doing what I was doing, but any busy is good..

night.owls.sb said...

I have to be honest, I don't have much of an opinion when it comes to health care.. I have learned being in business for so many yrs, I am a minority and whatever the government decides is what I have to do. I can't fight them. I pay so many business taxes, I could not even begin to tally the monies all up. My health care is thru my business as a small group, and whatever the cost is, it is. I have tried to shop around, but I keep going back to bc/bs of NJ.

I do believe all ppl should have health care or be offered some type of health care in a affordable way.

The new cobra law went into effect recently that if a employee is laid off their cobra payments are alot less they last year.. One friend of mine was offered cobra for $100.00 a month as her employer had to pick up the rest.

Health care is just another screwed up problem that sadly occurs.. and I just don't know if anyone is capable of fixing it..

Very frustrating..

Maureen said...

JUST LIN...your premium is unconscionable. How they can charge that and still have huge premiums and deductibles is outrageous.

LYNN...and to have to take pay $500 a month for you and Mr. Lynn AND then your deductibles is a crime, especially as he is a government worker. Yet, a congressman can walk away after 1 term and be covered for free for life. Where is the justice in that??

WHABBY...I wouldnt mind paying higher taxes if I was really sure that the dollars would go to where they say are. If it meant every child had an education, food and shelter and medical coverage and ultimatley an opportunity to make a good living. But I don't believe it will really happen that way.

night.owls.sb said...

Lynnd..

Hooray... you are going to the BBQ.. how fun!

I was really going to try this year, but the funds are def not there. I did not take a vacation this yr either, and I gotta tell ya, I surely missed it..

Maureen said...

CAROL...glad your business is finally picking up a bit. Small steps are better then no steps

night.owls.sb said...

Mo...

Yes.. actually any steps are good...

Thxs..

night.owls.sb said...

I am confused.. I thought a insurance company (health) could not discriminate against pre existing conditions. At least that is what my broker told me. Has this changed?

Maureen said...

LYNN...you're going to the BBQ?? YAY! I am jealous!

Maureen said...

CAROL...if you go from one group to another, with no lapse of over 90 days, they will cover you...maybe not fully, but you will get coverage. If you have had no insurance, they do not have to.

kahonugrl said...

Hey Hooters~

I too have 3 pre-existing conditions, so if I we're to lose my job I would be a spec of sand in the immense crowd. I luckily have great insurance that I pay nothing for as our company picks up the entire cost of the employee and 1/2 of the dependents. When I had back fusion surgery and woke up paralyzed from the waist down, I was moved to a rehab hospital to recover. My Mom had flown in from the mainland and I chose to check out (with Doctors ok) and have my Mom drive me to outpatient therapy twice daily rather then stay in a hospital. Little did I know that that choice would end up costing me 30K!!!! Can you beleive that shit? My choice to free up a bed for someone who needed it worse than I and do the hard work on my own in outpatient locations was not an "Approved" move by the insurance company.

So trust me when my appendix ruptured I made sure the insurance provider was called before I checked out, and when I do anything now I call to make sure it is covered and what my deductible is. I am grateful for the coverage, but what kind of stupid moron makes these decisions?

I highly recommend to the ones who have yet to see it, the documentary "Sicko". It is a lil gross in parts, but was well done in my opinion, and shows how well a government based system works.

ok done venting now....

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night.owls.sb said...

I pay about $550.00 a month for my health insurance, I have a HMO plan which is very strict, I have co pays, but no deductibles. I pay 50% of all my scripts. I have to get referrals for all specialists. I can only go to dr's and hospital's on a list (unless I am out of state and something happens to me).. Rules, Rules, Rules..

Maureen said...

After my lapse, I was given coverage for my meds and visits and some things. But coverage for the procedures I needed related to my condition were not covered. And get this, the insurance company told me to tell the doc to say it was a new different condition and they would cover it!! Can you say insurance fraud?

night.owls.sb said...

Mo..

Thanks for the info.. I did not know that..

Turtle..

I agree.. If I am having any procedure other than the norm, I call as well..

night.owls.sb said...

Mo..

LOL.. fraud.. My dermaagoist (sp) does that, he takes my skin tags off, but he calls in another name, so I will be covered..

Maureen said...

Hey Turtle,

That is ridiculous that outpatient wasn't covered, yet the far more expensive in-patient facility was. How stupid can that be?

night.owls.sb said...

wow.. wtf is "dermaagoist" I think I am getting tired.. LOL

Maureen said...

When I needed my MRI, I was told it would not be covered until I had a round of useless xrays. That is why premiums are so high...waste!

kahonugrl said...

Carol:

Are you sure the dude is even a Dr.? lol

night.owls.sb said...

I hope the Duggers have insurance they are having their 19th child.. Geez, can you say "fertile" she is the definition of "fertile"..

night.owls.sb said...

Turtle..

HA!!! LMAO..

Maureen said...

TURTLE...LOL!!!

Maureen said...

CAROL...does 19 qualify as a litter? Did you see them on GMA this morning? The daughter-in-law, who is preggers, too referred to the mom as Mrs. Duggar. WTF?

kahonugrl said...

That counts as a roaming pack Mo

kahonugrl said...

dons my fin gear since Carol and Mo are about, and Tina no doubt is in the wings....

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night.owls.sb said...

Mo..

I bet her husband refers to her as Mrs. Duggar as well.. especially in the bedroom cause at this point, I can't even imagine that there is passion.. It must be like.. ok lets make a baby.. ok just make it quick..

:O)

Maureen said...

DAMNNNNN, DAMNNNNNN, DAMNNNNNNN

kahonugrl said...

Pencil that in Shirley when your done farming.....

how's your Mom?

kahonugrl said...

Squishy How you doing?

night.owls.sb said...

Turtle..

Your turtle fins did it..

:O)

night.owls.sb said...

Mo..

You lost.. :O)

kahonugrl said...

ok as you all are settling into the jammies and gettin ready for bed, I am leaving the office....

Have a good nite all~

night.owls.sb said...

Oh and the Mrs Duggar.. def needs a haircut..

Maureen said...

I can't believe her uterus hasn't gone on strike!! Or the other 18 kids at having to raise yet another sibling. She needs to keep her legs crossed and her va-jay jay corked shut!!!!!

night.owls.sb said...

Have a good nite Turtle..

:O)

night.owls.sb said...

Mo..

I think they are going to go for 20.. that seems to me to be the game plan, so they need to have sex one more time.. and then they are done.. :O)

Maureen said...

Safe trip home, TURTLE

Maureen said...

There is a girl at work that dresses and looks like a Dugger! I always refer to her as the Dugger chick...behind her back of course ;)~

night.owls.sb said...

Another shooting in Newark, these last several months it has been so bad.. and it is mostly crossfire, today a 4yr old girl, she survived thank goodness.. but many did not..

Newark had gotten so bad.. I truly don't know if they can clean it up..

Sad........

Maureen said...

At least, unlike Octomom, she is having them the natural way...just like a canine!

night.owls.sb said...

Mo..

Besides being a piggy, now you are a chicken???

LOL

Maureen said...

How rude of me...

BIRDEEEEEEEE...congrats on 1st!

Bebbilane said...

peeking in

Just_Lin said...

You guys are cracking me up! Thank goodness I only had two kids. I wouldn't want to have litters. LOL

Tina~in_ut said...

yikes....sneaks back in.....

Happy Birthday, Ronnie~

Just_Lin said...

It's Ronnie's birthday?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Ronnie!

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