Pages

Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Desperation



i left my office for a bit yesterday, as i needed
to run some errands, on my way back i
see several police cars in front of office,
panic when straight to my blood, as i surly
thought something had happen in my office

i was told on my return,

a man walked into the "rent a center"
that is located next to my office, he asked for
the manager, when they told him the manager
was not there, he calmly said "i am tired of
getting phone calls from you" with that he poured
butane fluid on him and lit a match and threw it
on himself, which of course led to him
setting himself on fire, i am not sure how they
were able to stop the flames, but when they took
him out by ambulance he did not look to badly
burned, and i say to that "thank goodness"

it seems he owed them money, and the
persistent phone calls to claim their money,
put him over the edge, i spoke with the sales
clerk that had called him earlier in the day,
she described him to me as a "normal" person
very cordial, and apologetic, he told her he
would be in to pay what he owed

the sales clerks who witness it, where besides
themselves, they just could not stop crying,
when i approached them to see if they were ok
they could not even talk, the one sales clerk (a man)
was frozen in time, as I spoke to him, there was
no movement, just stares and tears

"rent a center" called in grief counselors to speak
with them, and then they were both sent home,
i wonder now, what they see, are the flames still
in there head, do they see his face, can they
ever get that image out of their minds, or are
they in a fog, where nothing seems real

how desperate was this man, how lost he must have
felt, we live in such terrible times, where money
does not expand, it stays dormant, then slowly
disappears, and then one finds themselves
desperate!

i always say we can never underestimate any one
person, as any one is capable of anything, and now
i guess, i see that more, and the meaning of
underestimate just sits in my soul, to wonder each
day, what will happen next

160 comments:

Sandie said...

first?

Sandie said...

OMG! My first time at first!!

Good morning owls!!

Tinkatia said...

Good Morning Sandie. So glad you got first. I have been waiting for someone to wake up. Finally Grandma Moses did and Goldie. And now you.

night.owls.sb said...

Sandie:

Congrats on your first time being first! ♪♪ Happy Dance ♪♪ for you!

:O)

night.owls.sb said...

Good Morning Tinka!

Tinkatia said...

Sandie - No longer a First Virgin. I think there aren't many virgins left.

Tinkatia said...

Hi Carol - Did you sleep in this morning? I have been cruising the web waiting for you.

night.owls.sb said...

Tinka:
Have you spoken to Zona? is she ok? I have not seen her here in the nest..

Sandie said...

Carol, that poor man and how awful for the people who worked there! This reminds me of the video the other day--we just never know what someone is going through.

Good morning, Tinka!

Thanks, Carol!

Tinkatia said...

I will read the blog and come back.

iteach said...

Good job on being first, Sandie!

night.owls.sb said...

Tinka:
I did not finish the blog last night as I was to tired, so I had to finish it this morning....

night.owls.sb said...

Iteach!

Howdy :O)

night.owls.sb said...

Sandie:
I agree perfect example, I am also glad he did not hurt anyone else...

iteach said...

Very good, blog, Carol! It really has me thinking which is a good thing. I have so much to learn.

Sandie said...

Hi iteach! How are the kiddos this morning?

iteach said...

Off to do puzzles with the kids, I will be back during naps.

I hope everyone has a good day.

iteach said...

They are doing well, thanks Sandie.

I sure am going to miss them when school starts.

Tinkatia said...

Carol - I am sorry. You owe us no explanation. I was being silly. Please don't ever feel you need to get up early to write a blog. I knew they were set to come on automatically so I thought the clock was off. I feel bad now that I asked if you slept in, like you owe us anything. What can I do to make it up to you? I would say "Write some blogs" but I can't think of any good things to write about. I don't know how you do it. You are MARVELOUS!!!!!

Tinkatia said...

Good Morning Iteach - Have fun with your kids.

Sandie said...

I'm sure you are going to miss them, iteach. Even when I was at home and putting them on the bus to go to school it was hard letting them go.

Now that they're older, I stand out there waving the bus down!! LOL Just kidding, but it is different now that they're older.

Tinkatia said...

Carol - That is so scary. One never knows if something you say might push someone 'over the edge'. That poor man must have been so tortured inside. I hope it gets publicity so maybe some of these credit collectors will ease off a bit. I have heard of their harassing techniques.

Tinkatia said...

Sandie and Iteach - I used to love having my kids home for the summer holidays too. I could never understand the neighbours when they would say they couldn't wait until the kids got back to school. I bet now they would love to have those days back.

Tinkatia said...

25

Tinkatia said...

That was #25. I was up so early, I think I deserved that one. Do you think so Goldie or have you now left for work?

goldie said...

Good morning Hooters! Congrats on your first time sandie, have a smoke and enjoy the lingering aftermath......lol

Hi Tink, Iteach and Carol, and to all who arrive later.

How sad and how desperate must that man have been. One never knows the circumstances that led him to have to use a "rent a center" to begin with, but then to not have the means to pay is so sad.

I understand that businesses need to collect, but I also am against those places that put such huge interest and repayment plans that there is usually no way out. Those 'Payday' places are a fine example of people who can get in so far there is no way out.

Years ago Mr. Goldies parents skipped town (don't get me started- I have a whole BOOK I could write about them). They apparently used us as a reference on every single bill and charge they ever made. Well guess who got the calls looking for them? It was relentless and I literally had to threaten legal action against some of them to get them to leave us alone! I did happily give out there new address- but that didn't stop them from harrassing us.

Ok, back to work- have a wonderful day!

night.owls.sb said...

Tinka:
You are MARVELOUS!!!!! right back!

No worries...

:O)

Tinkatia said...

I think I am alone again. Carol and Sandie have you left too? I guess I will come back in an hour or so. The nest isn't fun when you are sitting here all alone.

Tinkatia said...

30

Sandie said...

I'm here, Tink. But, I'm about to leave. I promised myself I would catch up on chores. I've been running around having so much fun with my parents and kids that I've let the housework slip. It's bothering me! I'll feel better when it's all done but geez, I sure don't feel like doing it!

Have a great day!

Tinkatia said...

Carol - Zona is taking a break for a few days. She will be back later in the week.

Sandie said...

Hi Goldie!

Tinkatia said...

Sandie - I think I will leave too. Have a great day all you wonderful Owls.

Carol - Be kind to yourself today. Please forget my silly question about sleeping in.
I LOVE YOU BABE!!!!!

Tinkatia said...

35 and I am gone.

Sandie said...

Tinka, my hubby works from home and he helps out too (he's actually so great about that--he enjoys vacuuming--go figure!) but he's been really busy with his job so the house is not looking like it usually does!

Sandie said...

And here I am still chatting (procrastinating) so I'm leaving, too.

I hope everyone who flies in later has a wonderful day.

MEK in AZ said...

Happy Wednesday!!

Good Morning...

Sandie - congrats on your first FIRST!!

howdy to Sandie, Tinka, cpgem, Iteach and Goldie and whoever else lands..

cpgem - thanks for your blog - I can only imagine your thoughts as you pulled up to work!!

I hope everyone has an excellent day!!
:-)

whabbear said...

HI, Sandie, Goldie, iteach, Carol, MEK, and who's that other busy early morning owl....???

Oh, yeah. Tinkatia! :)

Carol, yes, at least he didn't bring a gun and attack the staff. Still, this was a pretty "in-your-face" action with respect to them. He meant to traumatize, clearly. I'm sorry you had to be a part of it.

Jennifer said...

Carol: What a horrible thing! I truly think your "guardian angel" sent you on those errand so you didn't have to witness that! (I know it was bad enough on you to see the aftermath...but THANK GOD you did not have to see it)!

I did not sleep well. I woke with a bigger headache than I went to bed with! I don't think it's a migraine this time, I think it's sinuses. I just pray it doesn't turn into a migraine (as I have a TON of things to do today)!

Morning to Sandie (and congrats on being first for the first time!), Tink (always glad to see you), Carol, Iteach (enjoy your time with the kiddies), Goldie (enjoy the grand kids today), MEK (so glad to see you....you've been missed), and Whabbear (always glad to hear your words of wisdom in the nest)!

Morning to all who fly in later!

Now I have to go get busy (headache or not)! Have a GREAT day everyone!

Jennifer said...

One more thing Carol. I LOVE the picture you chose! It is my kind of picture!

Jennifer said...

OK...you know I have to do this...

42...there...

Tinkatia said...

Good Morning Mek, Jennifer and Whabbear. So good to see you.
I just started to get some work done and Regis is coming on so I am taking a break with a cup of tea. LOL

Jennifer - Hope your headache is soon gone.

See you all in an hour.

goldie said...

Thanks Jennifer, hope you feel better. The grandbabies are coming on Friday. Oh, and Mr. Goldie hurt his back last night, spent the morning in urgent care and is now on an ice pack and vicodin. Not going to be a real fun weekend for him!

Hi Bear and Mek!!

Tinkatia said...

Goldie - So sorry to hear about Mr. Goldie hurting his back. He is lucky to have you to help keep him comfortable.
Enjoy the babies. I am seeing my baby on Saturday. I can't wait either.

Bebbilane said...

Hello and good day Sandie (congrats on first), Tink, Carol, iteach, Goldie, Mek, Whabby, Jennifer.

I hope everyone is having a terrific Wednesday! I am home for lunchie wunchie. :)

That is a pretty amazing story! I bet those people are devastated to see someone so desperate they would literally try and kill themself over a debt. :(

Bebbilane said...

Goldie: Sorry to read about Mr. Goldie. :(

Tinkatia said...

Good Morning Bebbi - What are your plans for today?

Bebbilane said...

My sister and I were talking, and since the gas prices have gone up we have noticed more and more desperate people. She just went to the grocery and bought the normal things she buys to get her through till her next big trip. She said it normally runs about $60 but she paid $90! With food prices and gas prices, people just can't keep up!

I went to Taco Bell the other day and got a couple of bean burritos for $2.10. When I got the change back from my $3 it was only 70 cents instead of 90 cents. I asked the cashier and she reached in her pocket and handed me a quarter. As she did, I heard quite a bit of change clicking around. My suspicion is that she takes a few cents from each drive thru customer and if they don't notice that pads her pockets for the day. I probably wouldn't have thought that though until she reached into her OWN pocket to get me the difference that she shorted me.

It tough for people in service jobs, I am sure. We will see more and more desperate souls the longer this recession sticks around.

Bebbilane said...

As tough as it it, it is still no excuse for stealing from people.

Bebbilane said...

Well, Tink: I go back to work, work until 5pm, come home and walk or ride my bike. Get on the computer and then later I am watching Ghost Hunter's International. My mom and I talk back and forth on the phone as we watch it. :)

Bebbilane said...

Jennifer, I hope the headache didn't turn into a migraine. That always ticks me off so bad, to get a migraine that stops me dead in my tracks from doing stuff I need to do!

I hope your busy day ends with a lot of items "checked off the list". :)

DreamaTexas said...

Good morning everyone. What a sad event. I am sure that the Rent A Center employees will need counseling. The trauma will stay in their minds for awhile. Of course the poor man needs a mental evaluation. One of the worst traumas that has stayed in my head happened 10 years ago on a vacation to New Orleans. We were leaving the city and entering onto the freeway. A transient stepped into the path of an 18 wheeler. He was killed instantly and his leg was severed at the top of the thigh and was thrown aside from the rest of his body.(This might me TMI so sorry everyone). It took me a long time to get the severed body out of my every day thinking and the look of horror on the truck driver's face. His eyes were huge and he was already going into shock moments after he stepped out of his truck cab.

DreamaTexas said...

Sandie
Congrats on first.
I just had time to read Area 51 comments. I spit out my morning tea! Tinkatia requested that Bebbi show her enormous boobs over at MS and Bebbi agreed to the request.
I am happy that I just have oranges. Carrying around the weight of 2 melons every day would just wear me out!

Bebbilane said...

Dreama: It is tiring but somebody's got to do it. *sigh* ...lol at spitting out your breakfast...I was laughing so hard yesterday.

Bebbilane said...

breakfast tea..I mean..would be gross to spit out your BREAKFAST>..laughing again..gawwwwd. *rolling eyes*!

Bebbilane said...

Well, back to the work 20! Have a great day all and thanks for the nice comments on myspace. I appreciate that. Big Hugs and Happy Wednesday!

Donna Jean said...

Happy Wednesday Everyone!!!

Good Morning to all the early poster's, (at least early to me)
SANDIE~ Congrats on #1, YAY!
TINKA~CAROL~ITEACH~GOLDIE~MEK~WHABBEAR~JENNIFER @ BEBBI! And to all who fly in after me, Top O' the Morning/Afternoon to you as well!

CAROL~ What a very sad Blog this morning.

This economy, this society, whatever or whoever you want to blame, has made even the most "normal" or seemingly "normal" people go out and do the most unnatural and inhumane things. This poor man and his family must have been tormented so much he was just at his breaking point. Who can know what drove him to this point, what his financial situation was etc. I only hope he gets the psychological help he needs, and his family also. My prayers and thoughts are with him and his family.

And thank goodness you were not there to have witnessed that!

I was laughing at Today's QOTD, and thinking that if
BEBBI has "Monster Truck" boobs, mine would have to be considered "Training Wheels"!

A huge THANK YOU to those who sent such loving, positive and encouraging words to myself and Laurie!
Oh, I hope my trusty #2 didn't forget anyone!!
DONNA JO
TINKA
SANDIE~
ITEACH
BEBBI
JODI
WHABBEAR
LOVEY
GOLDIE
SACBARB
MARY/MI
JUST_LIN
CAROL~ TY FOR EVERYTHING!
SHIRLEY~ just wanted to say to you my dear, take your much needed break. We all need those once in awhile to regroup. But remember to come back, we miss you! AND, some of us have become so accustomed to breakfast being served, we may starve!

After our nap, (Miss Laurie slept for two hours) we were still just so tired, we didn't do much but watch a bit of TV and went to bed before 9:00, so I didn't get back on the Nest.

Yes, it's been a long road so far just to get to the actual "starting" point, but at least we know what is going to happen, when it is going to happen, and prepare ourselves for it all.

So many of you are undergoing similar medical or emotional circusmstances, either with yourselves, or your beloved family members, and I just want you all to know that I am sending love, prayers, positive thoughts and good healing wishes to all of you!!

Well, housework (ugh) and errands are awaiting me, so I better get them all done!

Till later, Peace and Love to all,
Donna Jean

Jennifer said...

Goldie: Sorry to hear about the mister. I know what that feels like. It was about a year ago that I had that happen. I was helping my friend mover her king sized bed so we could paint behind it. However one of the posts she had (that raised it high) got stuck underneath it so she had me lift the corner of it to get it out and OUCH...I heard a crack and fell to my knees! I started to black out and I lied down on the floor (where I stayed until the ambulance came to haul me away...which is another story all it's own)! ANYWAY...I luckily only sprained it (and the muscle relaxers and the vicodin were a God send)! Then while house sitting last summer, I put the "caution tape" and body outline up for my friend to see (as a reminder of when I helped her)! You can see that pic. on myspace! LOL!!!
So...I am sure that your hubby will be just fine with the vicodin...it's good stuff! ; )

Bebbi: I am sorry you know what a migraine feels like. You're right...it does stop you dead in your tracks. Bed is the ONLY place I can go!

Thanks Tink too. I also hope it goes away!

Hey Dreama!

OK...off I go....

Jennifer said...

Oh....you know what I have to do...

60!!!!

Hi Donna Jean and Laurie!

Donna Jean said...

Me again!

GOLDIE~ hope Mr Goldie gets better really soon, especially with the grandbabies coming.

Ice packs really do help. Last Thanksgiving I fell and really hurt my back, was in and out of urgent care several times and finally found a DR who could really help me. He taught me a little exercise to do along with the ice packs. (be sure the ice is CRUSHED, so that it can mold to injured area).

I hope I can explain it correctly, because it really took the pressure off the injured area. OK here goes.

1. Sit only on a straight, flatback wooden chair with feet on the floor.
2. Take a long handle (like from a broom)and put it under one leg at the knee and over the other leg. This will naturally lift the leg that the broom is under.

3. Holding the broom handle with both hands, PUSH as hard as you can DOWNWARD on the leg with the handle UNDER it. Count to 35. Take a breath. Actually try to take deep cleansing breaths the whole time. Try to do this at least 3 times. Then IMMEDIATELY ICE the part of the back that is injured for about five minutes.

Repeat with the broom handle under the other leg.

4. Do this every 45 minutes or so.

At first, I could hardly count to 20, and to do it three times was horror! But after a few times, I wanted to keep doing it, it helped so much!

Good Luck, and hope this helps!

JENNIFER~ ( whispering) I have no home remedies for headaches, I am sorry to say. Just cold washcloths, lots of pain killers and a quiet dark room with no noise. Hope you feel better real soon.

Bye again!

hartldo said...

Good Afternoon Owls! I took my daughter to play practice but left her there today, in the care of another trusted mother. There is no need to spend 4 hrs there every day when there is so much to do here. Like checking this blog! LOL!

From A51...Tinka: What is TOTD? I think that is what it said.

Jennifer: I really hope your headache goes away. I, too, woke up with one. Fist was about 3:30 a.m. and I got up and got a drink of water. Sometimes, for me, it's just that I'm dehydrated. More often than not, it's hormonal though. Thankfully, mine didn't turn into a migraine, as it so often does. My migraine meds have gone up to $20 a pill and I've stopped getting them. I took 3 Excedrin Migraine pills and had some caffeine, and now I'm okay.

Sorry to hear about Mr. Goldie's back. Hope he recovers soon.

hartldo said...

Correction: Fist = First

Jennifer said...

Thanks Donna Jean. I had an ice pack on my head this morning. I do think it's the weather. It is only 86, but because the dew point temperature is 75 degrees because it's so humid! They say when the dew points reach the 70 degree mark, it's like being in a jungle!!! I HATE the humidity!!! Even when the dew point is in the 60's it's still uncomfortable!

I'll try the back exercises too (along with Mr. Goldie). I have a list of exercises for my back that I am "supposed" to be doing too (but that one wasn't one of them).

Be back later today. I am taking Katie to piano and then to get school supplies. She has been getting excited about it!

Talk to everyone soon!

Tinkatia said...

Donna Jean - You amaze me how you can keep track of everyone that flies into the nest. I have a pencil too but I can only do it in the early morning. After that it overwhelms me. I am glad you and Laurie are getting some rest. You should take it easy for the next few days. You have been through a lot of stress.

Jennifer - I am closing down for a few hours. I hope when I check back your headache is gone. My niece suffers from them too. She needs quiet and a dark room. Some meds help but not always. Take care my dear.

Have a great afternoon ALL OWLS EVERYWHERE.
Love, Tinka

iteach said...

66

iteach said...

67

iteach said...

68

iteach said...

69

iteach said...

That was for you Turtle!

Tinkatia said...

66 - even number for Jennifer.

VIG - I hope you have fun in Beacon Hill Park. The sun is coming out. I put in an order for it.

Bonnie - Did you get the rain I sent? I didn't send humidity. Someone else must have done that.

Now I'm gone.

hartldo said...

Congrats on first Sandie!
Congrats on 69 iteach!

Tinkatia said...

Iteach - My friend. You stepped on me. That's okay, it didn't hurt. I posted 66 and looked up and suddenly it was 71. I felt like Rip Van Winkle.
See you later.

iteach said...

I'm off for a nap. I will check in again later.

Jennifer said...

Thanks Donna Jo! Hope your headache goes away too!

Jennifer said...

I am the same way as your niece Tink. Sometimes medicine helps and other times it doesn't.

Hi again ITEACH! Have a nice nap!

I'll be back later!

Renee Eve said...

Good Afternoon,

I was up late last night watching TV with my middle and youngest son, so we slept in today. I have to clean also Sandie, it seems the older you get, the less you care about house work LOL.

Oh Carol that must have been terrible for everyone involved. These are very hard times for everyone. My FIL said it was Michigan who was hurting with the Big 3 shutting down plants, and laying people off, or early buy outs. I told him NO I think its the whole country. But hes to stubborn to even talk to. We were at the gas station the other day and there was a man he was homeless you could tell, well I had a garbage bag full of pop cans I told my oldest son to give it to him, there was probably $25.00 in there. He was very grateful.

Bebbi, I was also blessed with large hooters. It does hurt when you go for the mammogram.

Tinka: I agree all the mothers can't wait for their kids to go to school, I'm one that loves them home I enjoy them home. When I worked it hurt me so much when I dropped Anthony & Vincent off, and that was only to my Aunt. But I havent worked in 8 years. But I have my hands full with the boys and my mother.

I hope everyone has a good day. I have to get this house CLEANED it will take a couple days, I have to do my China Cabinet and my curio cabinets, and all my hanging lights. I will check back in later.

hartldo said...

Carol: I cried when I read your blog for today. Desperation is the perfect title for it. How sad for everyone involved. I know there are people who will be angry at the man who did this to himself but I feel real sorrow for him. Mr. Hart works for a mental health center and deals with desperate people on a daily basis. It's no wonder he has been so down lately himself. He says things are getting VERY desperate for a lot of people.

hartldo said...

Tinka: I have never been happy when it's back-to-school time. I LOVE having my kids home with me and always have. And for the past 3 years, back-to-school means back to work for me. :(

hartldo said...

I wasn't going to share this story with you guys because I was so ashamed of myself last night for making such a big deal over it, but there was a big lesson in this story for me and, possibly, there will be a lesson in it for some of you.

I came home from my daugther's play practice yesterday evening and found my tree out front had been butchered by a guy I'd hired to trim it. He was actually supposed to have been here days ago but was unreliable and decided to show up when I wasn't home. I could've supervised him if I'd been here. I was so mad!

He also ripped out some evergreen ground covering that I'd paid a fortune for, because he thought they were weeds. I wasn't happy with any of the yard work he had done.

You may ask why I hire someone in the first place, especially since I'm always complaining about our money troubles. Well, Mr. Hart has a bad shoulder and really couldn't care less about how our yard looks anyway. I have terrible asthma and allergies (2 sinus surgeries and countless meds) and I just can't handle being outside for that long, especially doing yard work.

Sorry, I'm making a short story too long.
Anyway, I was so upset over my yard that I know my blood pressure had to have been through the roof. I did speak to the guy about my dissatisfaction, but that wasn't going to change anything. The greenery was gone and the tree was basically cut to a stump.

I fumed around this house all evening, being a grump to Mr. Hart and my daughter.

Then I got online and read an email from someone very close to me. (No one any of you would know.) She confided in me that she has been fighting uterine cancer. I just spent the day with her last week and I had no clue! She told me by email because she couldn't stand to see the horror, shock or sadness on my face.

Then I read an email from my niece, whose boyfriend was just arrested.

Then I read HERE about Laurie Elizabeth and all she's gone through in her life.

SHAME ON ME!!!! My stupid tree will grow back! I don't have real problems!

Things like Carol's story today put things in even more perspective for me.

There but for the grace of God, go I.

Renee Eve said...

Donna I bet it is hard for your husband to handle that. There are so many houses for sale and in forclosure its SAD. I just worry for our children whats gonna happen to them??? I was watching the graduation ceremony on the cable station a few weeks back, and almost 90 % of the graduates were going into some type of medicine. Twenty years ago there were some going into medicine, but a lot of engineers, etc. But there are only a need for so many doctors too. I think I worry to much. LOL Ok, I'm going to clean.

Renee Eve said...

Oh Donna, I'm so sorry for your friend and your niece and Laurie Elizabeth.

But I do understand about your tree. I think we all tend to be a little selfish when it comes to our things and sometimes forget about what other people are going thru. By receiving them emails it was Gods way of waking you up and realize "Hey Donna your lifes not so bad". Trust me we all have been there. Thats why when my kids say Auntie Charlene is lucky she gets to sit in a wheel chair and dosent have to walk. OH I give them the BIG STORY of how LUCKY they are that they have 2 good working legs and their strength, The older two understand now, its just my little one who don't get it yet. I tell him she would LOVE to walk and dance, and eat by herself. So when I'm feeling down about petty things I think of her. So don't be down on yourself Donna.

hartldo said...

Thanks Renee. (((HUGS)))

goldie said...

Thanks for the good wishes and suggestions for Mr. Goldie.

Mr. Goldie has been very athletic his whole life, and has always (still is) in very good shape. (Just getting older) So he has LOTS of experience with icing things. The biggest joke at our house with my boys and I is when something is bothering you Mr. Goldie would always say "take a poop or ice it" like that would just fix it all!!!!!!! LOL - But the vicodin doesn't hurt either let me tell you....

Hart- don't feel bad about feeling bad. Not everything in life has to be horrific to make us upset and it certainly doesn't negate your feelings because someone elses problem may be more intense. Your being pissed at the guy about the tree doesn't take away from your feelings for your friend or sympathy and empathy for others. :) JMHO

Lynn D said...

Afternoon Glories!

Sandie congrats on first!

Carol I am afraid we will see more of this and also others getting hurt in the process.

I spent the morning at the foodbank. I had taken 2 weeks off as I needed a rest. Sometimes the hurt and worry I kept feeling from people was draining my psyche. We are seeing more and more people all of the time and many are young people and middle class that just can't make ends meet.

There are so many getting lost in this economic uncertainty and fall through the cracks. Desperation is and will take it's toll.

It makes me so sad and I watch some of the media that is put out that says they are News in reality they are hate mongers and will stop at nothing and say anything to get their opinion out and over sane and rational news. Hence the church shooting the other day.

I feel our country is in a very big decline not just the economy but psychologically also. We all need to tread lightly in these uncertain times.

Look at history and let us pray and hope that we do not have another depression, many took their lives then too.

I am going to think about all of the people who witnessed this and about the poor man that was so desperate that he felt this was the way to cry for help.

Sandie said...

Donna, just read your post and you shouldn't feel guilty for being upset about your tree--anyone would be! But once again--the night owls to the rescue! It seems we're all reminded lately of how precious life, families, etc. are.

My oldest son is taking care of his friend's dog for a few days (he asked me first) so now I have four dogs at my house. I was immediately upset because there's dog hair everywhere already (my dogs don't shed) and I've been cleaning all day!!

So, Donna, your post helped me, along with Carol's blog and Renee's kind words. What's a little (a lot!!) dog hair? No big deal.

Thanks!

Sandie said...

Okay, I'm still not upset! The puppy (7 mo. old chocolate lab) went outside and jumped in the pool. Now he's wet with shedding wet hair.

I'm going to go read Carol's blog again . . .

Sandie said...

Goldie, I'm laughing at the story about your Mr. Goldie and the family teasing him about what he says when someone isn't feeling well. We have the same joke about Mr. Sandie!! But, he always says to get a drink of water, eat a banana and take an ibuprofen! LOL

sacBarb said...

Happy Wednesday Owls.

Carol, what a horrifying experience. Desperation leads people to do unspeakable things sometimes and this does tie in directly with the blog of the other day. We can never know what another is thinking or what stresses they are dealing with.

Goldie, We had a similar experience. A 'friend' gave us as a reference and then split on a huge debt. We were bombarded with phone calls and mail asking about them. In our case we didn't know where they were, so we couldn't give any info. It was a real pain in the A$$.

Bebbi, I think I would have talked to the manager about that employee that shorted your change and then dug in her pocket when you caught it. Think of how many others she may have done that to.

DonnaJo, TOTD = Topic of the Day, in case no one answered that yet.

DonnaJean, I'm glad things are going well with Laurie and the ball is finally rolling.

Waving a wing at all the other Owls and all who land after me. Have a good day everyone.

DeeDee said...

I have been a little down for the last couple of days.......on Monday, my parakeet...Ruby....suffered a heart attack.....they were keeping her alive in an oxygen tent until she pecked a hole in it and died....

I was making arrangements to bury her...but my new dog, Dolly, made off with her little corpse and ate her....

How yall doin'?

whabbear said...

Everybody's commenting with such interesting stuff today!

Are people actually getting more frustrated, more desperate, and more unhappy over time? Is society really coming apart at the seams?

That seems to be the consensus in the nest this morning. But before I accept that, I need hard evidence! Statistically, are people more likely to behave in similar ways to the person in Carol's blog today, compared to the past? Are incidents of road rage going up? Are suicide rates increasing? Are more people seeking treatment for mental illnesses?

If so, why? What's going on? Is it all stemming from financial problems? Or are these behaviors symptoms of a more deep-seated malaise?

whabbear said...

ROFLMAO@Delores!!!!

whabbear said...

Delores: Wasn't it you who famously said that a blog needs more than dying cats and dogs? STILL laughing!!

Sandie said...

♫ Carol ♫ I hope you're having a great day! ♪♪♪

Thank you for showing me that! LOL

goldie said...

everything is better with music, don't you thing sandie? :)

goldie said...

96

goldie said...

97

goldie said...

98

goldie said...

99

hartldo said...

Just got back from picking up my daughter (and her friend) from play practice. My goodness, it's wicked hot out!

Thanks, goldie, for saying it's okay to feel upset.

Glad my story helped you Sandie. Dog hair would frustrate me too. My cousin's Pug is the worst, even though I love that breed. (Had 2 Pugs growing up.)

SacBarb: Thanks for explaining TOTD.

Well said Lynn D.

Thank you Delores. I needed that. LOL!

goldie said...

100!

goldie said...

foiled! 101- LOL
Hart you got 100!!!

hartldo said...

And I wasn't even trying! :)

Renee Eve said...

FOR EVERYONE THAT IS INTERESTED

THEY WILL BE ANNOUNCING THE NEW CAST OF DWTS ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA ON AUGUST 25.

hartldo said...

Thanks Renee, but someone will have to remind me again about DWTS because that's a long way away. I do love to watch that show. It's something my daughter and I like to watch together.

RonnieGirl said...

Good afternoon everyone,

Carol, that's such a shame this gentleman was so distraut and living on the edge to the point it came to this. So sad for his family, as well as the people in the store.

Congrats Sandie on 1st, and happy cleaning. You are right about trival things that we all worry about, when there are so many people with bigger problems.

Donna Jean, It seems that it's just going to keep getting better and better for Laurie. Finally, some whens, wheres and hows. ((hugs)) to you both.

Goldie, I'm sorry about Mr. G's back. Hope he feels better before the grandbabies get there.

Waving a wing to Tink, Whabby, Hartldo, Jennifer, Sacbarb, LynnD(get some rest), Renee Eve, iteach and Dreama.

Hope I didn't miss anyone. I broke the lead in my #2, and now have a purple crayon.

Delores~ I'm so sorry to hear about your beloved Ruby. Are you having a Memorial Service for her? As you know, the Owls here are very loving and I'm sure some of us would like to come by to pay our respects and sign the Guest Book.

Please let us all know about whatever arrangements you are making, so we can send flowers.

Again, my warmest condolences to you and your family.

Ronnie

DeeDee said...

Hi Whabbear!

Yes...twas I that made the now infamous quote! And added a parakeet!

Hartldo....thank you for your kind words....as I said I was trying to make some arrangements when Dolly decided to have an hors de oeuvre. And I just can't bring myself to do anymore about it since I witnessed Dolly pooping her pecker.....

DeeDee said...

Ronnie dear.....I meant to include you in that post....so sorry...thank you. As you can imagine I am still visibly shaken by the little "reminders" that just seem to keep coming......

RonnieGirl said...

In the Texas tradition, I'll be dropping off a casserole.

Now, enough talk about this most painful subject.

iteach said...

Nothing died at my house today, but I'm starving Ronnie.

What kind of casserole are you making?

I love casseroles my husband doesn't.

RonnieGirl said...

iteach~ if I haven't told you lately...I luv ya. LOL

Ham and potato casserole is one y'all might like. OR anything with noodles, which I think the children will enjoy.

iteach said...

Oh, Ronnie, you are making my stomach growl.

RonnieGirl said...

A little salad with that and you'll be good til morning.

Be there in an hour.

iteach said...

Did Mary already leave for Vegas?

If she didn't , she could come over with a cherry pie to finish our meal. She makes a good cherry pie.

Bebbilane said...

Hi to all the Owls that flew in since lunchtime.

sacbarb: I went online and did the survey for Taco Bell and reported it on there.

Whabby: I don't think that people are getting more unhappy over time. I think they are becoming more desperate because everything is going up, up , up except people's wages!

When you make the same amount of money and food, gas, utilities, rent, health insurance, necessities and everything goes higher, then you are going to have more people who are desperate. It isn't hard to see that everything is more expensive. That is for sure a fact of life right now. I don't think it is a "deep-seated Malaise", I just think it is financial desperation.

I mean if you have a couple of kids going to school and lets say you spent $300 per kid to get them ready for school (and that is on the CHEAP side) and suddenly the next year it costs you $500. You can't just pull that money from the air!

Deloris: Sorry to hear that your bird died.

Hart: I would have been upset with the tree trimmer too. I have a couple of trees that I love and would hate it if they were all hacked up.

Shirley: Wherever you are come back soon. I always enjoy your postings and your amazing food!

RonnieGirl said...

I think Mary took her 'pie' to Vegas...not sure though.

I make horrible cherry pie, but make a hell-of-a mean pecan pie.

I'll bring it too. Do you think maybe you could set the table. LOL

iteach said...

Reality slowly sets back in and I must go cook dinner for the little ones.

Ronnie thanks for the casserole and salad.

DeeDee sorry about your loss. He was a fighter to the end.

iteach said...

Oh, Ronnie, I love Pecan Pie too. Yes, I will set the table for you and keep the light on.

RonnieGirl said...

L O L....Enjoy your evening, iteach.

Bebbilane said...

Hey renee, Thanks for the update on when the next group for DWTS will be announced. I always love to see who it is going to be!

RonnieGirl said...

Shoot, I might just bring my jammies so I can enjoy those famous half eaten pop-tarts with the icing licked off.

See everyone later.

Ronnie

sacBarb said...

Good afternoon/evening everyone.

Bebbi, I'm glad you reported to Taco Bell. Hopefully they will not let it drop. You are so right about everything going up except salaries. California is having a budget crisis right now (we don't have one for this fiscal year yet) and our esteemed Governator is going to reduce ALL the state employees' salaries to minimum wage ($6.55 per hr.) I'm sure that doesn't include the Legislature, however, who are responsible for approving a budget for us. As you can imagine, there is quite a bit of turmoil at the Capitol. I'm sure glad I'm not working any more. I'm just worried that he is going to dip into our retirement funds. Then there is going to be one hot (as in mad) Italian mama here.

Sorry for the rant. All my buttons are pushed!

Lynn D said...

Whabby: No disrespect intended but if you don't buy the premise that people are feeling more desperate or that there is increased worry, I suggest you take the time to volunteer at a foodbank, a homeless shelter, or soup kitchen.

I believe your eyes will be opened and if you volunteer on a regular basis they will be very opened.

In the last two months our numbers keep going up. We have gained 1/3 more people coming through our doors and this is for a very small foodbank. I do meet with people from other foodbanks as we network, and they are also seeing dramatic increases. We were told months ago that we would see this trend and that the income for 16,000 to 30,000 would be the next level to falter and fail.

Yes that is just at the foodbank level. Our emergency response state agencies here in WA have finally started to realize that the social services that our non profits provide actually provide a more accurate and clear picture as we end up catering to everyone especially those who fall through the state agency cracks. We are trying to get the warning out but no one is listening.

While I love a good laugh. I am sorry I just don't find anything funny about desperate people.

hartldo said...

Speaking of food banks....That reminds me of the latest American Girl Movie (Kit Kittredge). Did anyone here see it? One of my friends and I took our daughters and we (the adults) ended up crying through some of it because it was about The "Great" Depression, and thus, it was depressing.

Well-to-do people were ending up having to go to the local food bank, men were leaving their families to go look for work in other cities, people were taking in boarders, houses were being taken by the bank, etc. It reminded us so much of how our little town is becoming.

Anyone who can't see this decline, is WAY out of touch. Come to small town Southern Ohio and you'll see desperation.

Renee Eve said...

My mother was trying to help me make dinner tonite. So she was sitting at the table with the knife and a board slicing onions, she sliced her finger. She refused to go to the hospital, my husband came home and said get your SH** together your GOING NOW!!! She didn't argue with him. She was crying, because she said she can't do NOTHING no more. I'm sure she will be alright. I feel like it was my fault because I let her, and I was talking with her.


Donna & Lynn I agree with you times are getting worse, especially food, gas, utilities, etc. Everytime you turn around over here in Michigan, GM, Chrysler, Ford are on the TV having a press conference announcing another restructure. Now Chrysler or whatever they go by now, are not leasing vechicles no more. You know they are all gonna follow suit. Times are getting tougher, I do believe were in some type of recession.

Maureen said...

SANDIE...congrats on finally losing your virginity!! I guess Mary's cherry pie is in order for the celebration.

CAROL...that made me cry. It is unconscionable that the "richest" nation can allow it's people to become so desperate.

I am amazed at my reaction I had when I saw gas for 3.75 a gallon. Who would have ever thought that that would be a happy day.

The cost of living is rising at mach speed yet the wages are staying stagnant, and in many cases decreasing as jobs are lost and new ones are few and far between. I can speak for myself...I am working two jobs and making about half of what I was earning a year ago...but my bills are not cut in half. And I truly don't lead an extravagant lifestyle.

As you know, I work for a hospital and you would think we would have the best and cheapest health insurance...wrong. The premiums are more then I paid last year and the co-pays are higher. It is cheaper then what I paid on COBRA. One month of COBRA equals 10 months of my current insurance...so i am thrilled.

Last year, we spent 55 million dollars taking care of patients that have no insurance.

CAROL, I am so glad you didn't have to witness that. Burns are horrible to see. My heart breaks for the employees involved and for the gentleman to think he needed to do that...so damn sad.

Mary/MI said...

Good evening ladies, Whabbear & Joey

Iteach lol, I don't leave until Fri.

I am baking cupcakes with cream cheese frosting. I made home made tortillas for burritos tonight. All this around cleaning,packing doing dishes and finishing July's VFW treas. report,"touching up" my roots, and folding laundry.So if you wwere wondering where I have been....lol!

I have been peeking off & on in the nest.
Jennifer~ Hope you are feeling better.

Goldie~[[HUGS}} to Mr Goldie.

DonnaJean~ Thanks for the back exercise. I will check it out after this long back-aching day!

Hatldo~ Don't be so hard on yourself. Be glad he didn't want to "trim" your dog!

Back to my chores. I still have to pack. Later....

hartldo said...

LOL @ Mary/MI! I don't have a dog but I'll keep a close eye on my cats!

whabbear said...

Lynn D: No disrespect taken... my questions were genuine requests for information about the state of things, and the owls are supplying that information in spades.

♥LOVEY♥ said...

Hi Owls.
Today's blog, wow.
I am sad for all involved.

I'm sad that ppl don't remove blinders or take the time to look and watch for signs that ppl are going over the edge.
Sad :o(

hartldo said...

Ohmygosh, Renee, I just read on MySpace that your mom required 5 stitches! I'm so glad your husband made her go to the ER.

♥LOVEY♥ said...

OWLS we have a friend in need

Dianne-needs-our-prayers-in-denver.

If u can, please keep Dianne,her daughter and her family in your prayers.
They are going through a very difficult time right now.
She wouldn't burden the nest,so I am asking for her.

Thanks xox

hartldo said...

Oh, I am so sorry to hear about Dianne. Thank you for letting us know, Lovey.

goldie said...

Delores's dead bird story reminded me of the time our Beta Fish died.

He was my sons and lived 2 years in a college apartment on top of a stereo speaker. The only time he got fresh water was when he came home for the holidays to "grandma's' (me!). He used to get really excited when I would talk to him and swim in circles really fast. We bonded...

Well, he died when Kyle was in London so I had a little funeral service with his "sister Pepper", Mr. Goldie and I huddled around the commode. I wrote a lenghty obit,(worthy of a pulitzer) and emailed it to Kyle, family and close friends for a good laugh.

But the laugh was on me when I got a condolence email from a high level management peron who I had inadvertenly sent the email too!!

Anyway- just wanted to drop in and say hey.

renee eve ,sorry your mom got hurt- but don't blame yourself

Mary- could I have a cupcake please?

goldie said...

Thanks Lovey- will keep them in my thoughts!

Tinkatia said...

Good Night Owls in Owl-Town.
Pink Tink is signing off to go and watch Season one of Grey's Anatomy. A very special friend gave it to me. Having never watched an episode of it, I have enjoyed the first two so far.
God bless all those in need of prayers tonight. See you in the morning.

iteach said...

Tink,

I have never seen one episode either. Enjoy and tell me if you like it. Maybe I will start watching it like I did GW.

night.owls.sb said...

Hi Everyone....

Again a very long day! It seems this past month as been crazy...

I have not read the comments yet as I had to answer some msg's on myspace... I did skim thru and see that Lovey left a comment in reference to Dianne-our-friend-in-Denver..

Lovey is right, she needs our positive thoughts and prayers as her family is going thru a trying time...Please send them to her...

Dianne:
My positive thoughts and prayers are being sent your way...

night.owls.sb said...

I will be back...

Also..
Missing owls, wherever you are, whatever you are doing, I think of all of you often, hope you are all well,and I miss your posts..

sacBarb said...

Dianne, You know my prayers are with you and your family. Take good care of yourself, too. Love you.

Barb

night.owls.sb said...

Can someone call me a "crackwhore" maybe that will cheer me up...

:o)

Oh, I have to be the best "crackwhore"

If one chooses this, Thank you in advance.........

hartldo said...

Hello crackwhore!

DreamaTexas said...

Goldie
I feel so bad when I have to flush one of my dead Betas down the toilet to fish Heaven. I have 3 Betas,.... Japanese fighting fish for those who aren't familiar with Betas. I named them Sushi, Saki & Mushi.
Years ago I had a Simaese cat that would watch my 5" beloved Oscar fish swim back and forth. My cat would always lurk with this evil smurk on her face which I ignored. The aquarium had a cover after all so naturally I assumed that my cat could never get to my Oscar fish. Well, shame on me for believing anything of the sort!I came home from work one day and began my routine. I fed my cat. Then I went over to feed the fish in my 55 gallon tank. I moved on to feed the fish in the other 2 aquariums and I'll be damned if my 5" Oscar in the bottom aquarium wasn't missing from its tank. I looked at my cat and saw the twinkle in her eye and a shit eating grin on her face. So I learned a lesson the hard way that day. Excuse my damn and my shit but honestly this is a true story.

Just_Lin said...

Carol You are the best friggin' crackwhore ever!!!!!

night.owls.sb said...

Donna:
You just made my night..Thank You!
And just so you know here on this crazy nest, "crackwhore" is a term of endearment.....Oh dear Tina, gave us that word...

Thank you so much....

sacBarb said...

Carol, you know you are the best crackwhore ever to grace the nest.

night.owls.sb said...

Just_Lin
Pucker up, I am giving you a kiss...

(on the cheek of course)

Here is comes....

Kiss, Kiss.....

Thanks
;O)

night.owls.sb said...

Sacbarb:
And for you, my thanks, and a great big ole 'crackwhore" hug....

:O)

MEK in AZ said...

149

MEK in AZ said...

150

MEK in AZ said...

Dianne in Denver - my continued thoughts and prayers to you, your daughter and your family...

cpgem - :-)

The top four on So You Think You Can Dance will be VERY difficult - I was shocked when Will was voted off last week - these top six are AMAZING!!!!!!!!!

I hope everyone has an excellent Thursday!!!
:-)

RonnieGirl said...

Hey Jersey Girl...

Just so you know, we all think you put the crack in crackwhore. You're the best...Luv ya,

I wanna stay up and play, but I'm an older crackwhore and completely
exhausted.

Good night to everyone and I'll be adding Dianne and her family to my prayers tonight.

night.owls.sb said...

Ronnie:
Thank You, I am blushing..

Mek:
:O)

night.owls.sb said...

I am off to bed...

See ya all tomorrow...

:O)

Just_Lin said...

Delores Please accept my sincere condolences on the loss of your beloved parakeet, Ruby. On the upside, she was recycled, so to speak.

DreamaTexas said...

PS
I will say prayers for Dianne.
LynnD
I love the fact that you are so giving. I am a strong and firm believer in giving and I agree with you that times are getting worse.
I don't have my #2 pencil so I will just say a mass shout hello to every owl.
Today was crammed packed. I got off work and went directly to meet up with my nephew who decided to surprise me with a visit. He got off work early and drove 240 miles to show off his new red super charged Mustang. He put the pedal to the metal and it was a fun little adrenaline rush. And just and FYI of course we did do this safely at the track. His Dad is a former race car driver so the need for speed is in his blood. His grandpa is a retired police chief so he knows to obey the laws. The combo works!

hartldo said...

Goodnight crackwhores!

Just_Lin said...

Dianne_we_love_you_in_Denver Sending positive, loving thoughts to you and your family. Big, big, (((((HUGS)))))

iteach said...

Good night everyone!

iteach said...

160 , I'm counting sheep, to help me fall asleep.

whabbear said...

Good night, Carol, Hart, and iteach!